state overlooked farming wasn't a disaster. what's the argument for that? that a single incident happened

?

The famine in the Soviet Union was going on even in Tsarist Russia.

also only ML actually want that I think

Right, because Tsardom wasn't a good system either

But the Soviets were the one who actually tried to fix it.

Less government is the answer

And they fixed it too.

The only one because you couldn't be anything else, or of to the gulags with you

You're AnCap, aren't you.

I'm libertarian, not ancap

So that explains your ignorance.

Great reply

Anyways I gotta go eat, AFK.

but wanting less government is hardly an argument against communism.

Communism is the furthest away from libertarianism I believe

Unless you're talking ancommunism

the furthest from libertarianism would be like slave society probably

luckily no one wants that

not far off tbh

sure it is

Communism and Slave Society "Not far off"

Not being able to complain like in the USSR is something harsh even for a slave

but you're very right that marxist-leninist are more concerned about other things than liberty

but I honestly doubt a ML revolution would happen in modern 1st world country

I'm not even sure what it would be, it feels so unrealistic

because radical leftism is almost dead

at least it's growing slightly I think, but it's gonna be a good while before we have socialists or communists at the political debate again

Socialism is still alive a bit, communism is so taboo in the west(thankfully)

Thanks to misleading propaganda*

Something's going to replace the neo liberal governments, just have to see what it will be

both socialists and communists are concerned about the exact same

getting to socialism

And eventually Communism.

yes that's what I think, but socialism is for some reason thought of as different

that's because people think socialism is something it's not

people think bernie sanders or the scandi countries are socialism

But the red scare is the main cause why Socialism and Communism are so unpopular in the west.

which is frankly just a mark of shame on actual socialists

yeah, they think the Dutch system is socialist

I wish political discourse would return to a more ideological state