Message from @Sampuka
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the reason the lead-in-food company will go out of buisness is not a market mechanism, but because they'll be fined or worse
a socialist economy, and a socialist country?
Because I agree.
fined and sued by the people they harm
I consider that in my views.
yes, but that doesn't have much to do with capitalism
the people in charge of that socialist society would very much like that
yes it does, if someone damages you and they didn't say so at all you can sue them
A socialist system is independent of a capitalist one.
laws still exist in a capitalist system
yes, but sueing isn't a capitalist thing
that's just the way our states work
Yes it is
I'm not arguing ancap, even they have the nap
You can still sue people for doing you or your family harm
yes, but that happens under many systems
I'm not saying it's capitalistic only
Timo, what you're proposing simply isn't sustainable or coherent if we consider that the majority of the world is of the working-class.
Just that you can take on a company in capitalism
Most of the people in working class are happy with it (currently less thanks to neo liberalism)
They're happy, but that's temporary.
class struggle is very obvious in most 3rd world countries
Working class is mostly mad because of the welfare state and in my country the refugees sucking up their money
I don't think a lot of countries are truly capitalistic, sampuka
how do you define capitalism then? because I can't point to a non-capitalist country
ehm maybe north korea
and somalia hardly has a system
Most of what we have now is corporatism, I'm sure you'd agree
Singapore is a good example
very economically free
@Timo))) That's why Communists seek out to promote class consciousness, because even though that's an issue of class society and capitalism, they don't blame it on those two things.
I'd say corporatism is very much capitalism
very rich for a small country
Two different thing to me, that's why i'm not happy with what we currently have
there's no difference between capitalism and corporatism
size of the vountry hardly matters
If it was I should be happy
corporatism naturally occurs from capitalism
like monopolies
it's not that there's no difference between capitalism and corporatism, but that it's just an ill comparison