Message from @Seedle
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That's the point, capitalism won't force communist like companies to be banned today
That's like saying we don't need a state to enforce laws on not murdering people lol
because they simply don't work as well
you need some regulatory means to abide by the law
in our current condition
Not murdering someone is vital to a stable state
means of production for every single person is not
Okay, what about assault? Or someone putting lead in food to make it last longer, but potentially lethal to humans like in some countries?
If the last thing happens the business would go out of business
He'll lose all his money
The fact that there will be a codified "Worker's have the right to the means of production" does not mean a socialist country can't be sustained.
sorry for just leaving before
can sustain but not thrive like a capitalism system
Alright.
So you're saying the capitalist won't like that?
won't like what?
the reason the lead-in-food company will go out of buisness is not a market mechanism, but because they'll be fined or worse
a socialist economy, and a socialist country?
Because I agree.
fined and sued by the people they harm
yes, but that doesn't have much to do with capitalism
the people in charge of that socialist society would very much like that
yes it does, if someone damages you and they didn't say so at all you can sue them
A socialist system is independent of a capitalist one.
laws still exist in a capitalist system
yes, but sueing isn't a capitalist thing
that's just the way our states work
Yes it is
I'm not arguing ancap, even they have the nap
You can still sue people for doing you or your family harm
yes, but that happens under many systems
I'm not saying it's capitalistic only
Timo, what you're proposing simply isn't sustainable or coherent if we consider that the majority of the world is of the working-class.
Just that you can take on a company in capitalism
Most of the people in working class are happy with it (currently less thanks to neo liberalism)
ask teh rest of the world
They're happy, but that's temporary.
class struggle is very obvious in most 3rd world countries
Working class is mostly mad because of the welfare state and in my country the refugees sucking up their money
I don't think a lot of countries are truly capitalistic, sampuka