in our current condition

Not murdering someone is vital to a stable state

means of production for every single person is not

Okay, what about assault? Or someone putting lead in food to make it last longer, but potentially lethal to humans like in some countries?

If the last thing happens the business would go out of business

He'll lose all his money

The fact that there will be a codified "Worker's have the right to the means of production" does not mean a socialist country can't be sustained.

sorry for just leaving before

can sustain but not thrive like a capitalism system

Alright.

So you're saying the capitalist won't like that?

won't like what?

the reason the lead-in-food company will go out of buisness is not a market mechanism, but because they'll be fined or worse

a socialist economy, and a socialist country?

Because I agree.

fined and sued by the people they harm

I consider that in my views.

yes, but that doesn't have much to do with capitalism

the people in charge of that socialist society would very much like that

yes it does, if someone damages you and they didn't say so at all you can sue them

A socialist system is independent of a capitalist one.

laws still exist in a capitalist system

yes, but sueing isn't a capitalist thing

that's just the way our states work

Yes it is

I'm not arguing ancap, even they have the nap

You can still sue people for doing you or your family harm

yes, but that happens under many systems

I'm not saying it's capitalistic only

Timo, what you're proposing simply isn't sustainable or coherent if we consider that the majority of the world is of the working-class.

Just that you can take on a company in capitalism

Most of the people in working class are happy with it (currently less thanks to neo liberalism)

ask teh rest of the world

They're happy, but that's temporary.

class struggle is very obvious in most 3rd world countries

Working class is mostly mad because of the welfare state and in my country the refugees sucking up their money

I don't think a lot of countries are truly capitalistic, sampuka

how do you define capitalism then? because I can't point to a non-capitalist country

ehm maybe north korea

and somalia hardly has a system

Most of what we have now is corporatism, I'm sure you'd agree