Message from @Deleted User

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2017-07-17 05:34:59 UTC  

Capitalism is going to last for a long, long time, whether or not it will turn out in marx's favor is hard to say.

2017-07-17 05:35:01 UTC  

Space communism

2017-07-17 05:35:08 UTC  

Communism is a new phase of the relationship to production.

2017-07-17 05:35:16 UTC  

Economic freedom.

2017-07-17 05:35:21 UTC  

An end?

2017-07-17 05:35:24 UTC  

No.

2017-07-17 05:35:24 UTC  

@Deleted User I heard that socialism would.

2017-07-17 05:35:28 UTC  

Then the revolution is not a revolution

2017-07-17 05:35:30 UTC  

If it merely ends

2017-07-17 05:35:32 UTC  

But apparently it comes before now.

2017-07-17 05:35:53 UTC  

It just free people to progress without economic constraints and restraints imposed by the centralisation of capital.

2017-07-17 05:36:14 UTC  

But then why is the ideal so restrictive?

2017-07-17 05:36:22 UTC  

If you are going to free the market then what is going to stop capitalism from coming back?

2017-07-17 05:36:30 UTC  

Why are all men forced to live in certain ways in the commune?

2017-07-17 05:36:40 UTC  

Is not their labor capital in its own right?

2017-07-17 05:37:05 UTC  

@Deleted User He's talking the elimination of the market

2017-07-17 05:37:11 UTC  

As well as property

2017-07-17 05:37:22 UTC  

Though land/property still exists but is pooled

2017-07-17 05:37:55 UTC  

Though still, if you are going to free the ECONOMY, then what will stop capitalism from returning?

2017-07-17 05:37:55 UTC  

Capitalism is meaningless without the competition for resources. You will be free to pursue the perfect of yourself and your goals.

2017-07-17 05:38:09 UTC  

You cannot be free to do anything other than your function

2017-07-17 05:38:21 UTC  

Your function? What is my function?

2017-07-17 05:38:30 UTC  

In the hypothetical commune

2017-07-17 05:38:48 UTC  

Who said anything about a commune?

2017-07-17 05:38:49 UTC  

And good question

2017-07-17 05:39:01 UTC  

Who do you even ask in a communist system?

2017-07-17 05:39:25 UTC  

I did. Communism implies there is a *commune*

2017-07-17 05:39:32 UTC  

Socialism prepares society to enter into a communist society.

2017-07-17 05:39:58 UTC  

So, especially in the early phases, you might be required to work certain jobs.

2017-07-17 05:40:01 UTC  

Socialism being a transition state only is bollocks

2017-07-17 05:40:06 UTC  

@Deleted User Though I have heard numerous times that socialism comes after communism.

2017-07-17 05:40:06 UTC  

Is it?

2017-07-17 05:40:10 UTC  

It defeats the purpose of socialism

2017-07-17 05:40:19 UTC  

At least in a practical sense

2017-07-17 05:40:28 UTC  

Whoever said socialism comes after communism is a retard.

2017-07-17 05:40:29 UTC  

Same as it defeats communism

2017-07-17 05:40:37 UTC  

>Socialism
>Practical

2017-07-17 05:40:49 UTC  

No no I meant making it to be simply the state between capitalism and communism

2017-07-17 05:40:50 UTC  

Pick one.

2017-07-17 05:41:08 UTC  

There might as well not be a word for that other than "chaos" if there's nothing behind socialism other than 'muh property'

2017-07-17 05:41:21 UTC  

Why is socialism as a bridge to communism, self-defeating