Why are all men forced to live in certain ways in the commune?

Is not their labor capital in its own right?

@Deleted User He's talking the elimination of the market

As well as property

Though land/property still exists but is pooled

Though still, if you are going to free the ECONOMY, then what will stop capitalism from returning?

Capitalism is meaningless without the competition for resources. You will be free to pursue the perfect of yourself and your goals.

You cannot be free to do anything other than your function

Your function? What is my function?

In the hypothetical commune

Who said anything about a commune?

And good question

Who do you even ask in a communist system?

I did. Communism implies there is a *commune*

Socialism prepares society to enter into a communist society.

So, especially in the early phases, you might be required to work certain jobs.

Socialism being a transition state only is bollocks

@Deleted User Though I have heard numerous times that socialism comes after communism.

Is it?

It defeats the purpose of socialism

At least in a practical sense

Whoever said socialism comes after communism is a retard.

Same as it defeats communism

>Socialism
>Practical

No no I meant making it to be simply the state between capitalism and communism

Pick one.

There might as well not be a word for that other than "chaos" if there's nothing behind socialism other than 'muh property'

Why is socialism as a bridge to communism, self-defeating

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It implies concessions that take away from the end goal and risk departure from it at all

You cannot have communism if there is a king, you cannot have communism if there is a consul

IMO socialism should not be a transition state. Nor should it be related to communism. It should instead be something entirely different but very much similar.

Capitalism must be dismantled on a global stage, first of all. This is no easy feat. But it is necessary in order to solves the contradictions between classes that cannot be imposed forever.

The community/the social ownership of production and its fruits should be the goal of a true socialist society

Of course.

Trotsky, marx, lenin, and stalin all failed at that.

Without the elimination of individual mandate, and without the elimination of property

However property may be relegated by the community

And it is more present than ever.

How do you even believe it is possible to do it with communism?

@Deleted User Can you STFU for a second?