Message from @Raymond

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2017-07-26 08:55:38 UTC  

1. So you accept an expansionist policy where it is convenient?

2017-07-26 08:56:09 UTC  

If it benefits the state, sure. But as a rule I don't believe we should seek out war.

2017-07-26 08:56:35 UTC  

I really, really want to clarity, but I had to formulate my questions into a small a words as possible unless you handwave me.

2017-07-26 08:56:38 UTC  

If another power engages in war with us and we win, the sensible approach would be to hinder them from doing it again.

2017-07-26 08:57:25 UTC  

1. So, following this pattern of conquest, it is possible that the whole globe would come under your power?

2017-07-26 08:57:42 UTC  

1. Well, nobody advocated for the seizure of land

2017-07-26 08:58:01 UTC  

1. And this is only in response to another nation declaring war, not actively seeking to promote it

2017-07-26 08:58:20 UTC  

Why would an ethno state be more at war than say a current state?

2017-07-26 08:58:28 UTC  

^

2017-07-26 08:59:28 UTC  

1. Where there are differences there are conflicts. Given enough time, this escalates. You have to be willing to defend your own? Therefore it opens up into conflict, given enough time. And if you are successful, your borders or effective influence expands.

2017-07-26 08:59:50 UTC  

Well, actually I am saying that if you take over the world, then what.

2017-07-26 09:00:06 UTC  

What do you mean, then what?

2017-07-26 09:00:21 UTC  

A global empire is not stable.

2017-07-26 09:00:22 UTC  

A nations sole responsibility isn't to conquer others

2017-07-26 09:00:35 UTC  

It's to look after it's people

2017-07-26 09:00:42 UTC  

Then we get all space & techy and start cucc'ing aliens

2017-07-26 09:00:44 UTC  

Lol they're still at it

2017-07-26 09:00:46 UTC  

an Ethnostate would do exactly that

2017-07-26 09:00:51 UTC  

Pretty soon masterchief is born

2017-07-26 09:00:53 UTC  

@Deleted User gotta admire your persistence

2017-07-26 09:01:19 UTC  

@Deleted User he's been arguing for hours though

2017-07-26 09:01:26 UTC  

People like you guys are the reason why we will never be star trek

2017-07-26 09:01:53 UTC  

Humanity will never touch the stars

2017-07-26 09:02:06 UTC  

an Ethnostate wouldn't necessarily seek to become a global empire

2017-07-26 09:02:08 UTC  

We'll stagnate and wither away on this planet

2017-07-26 09:02:10 UTC  

Fuck you

2017-07-26 09:02:16 UTC  

and probably would need to remove other ethnicities to make that possible

2017-07-26 09:02:30 UTC  

or at least races

2017-07-26 09:02:59 UTC  

It's in the name Ethno state

2017-07-26 09:03:11 UTC  

So here is the end game, you have dominium in some form over the globe, conflicts still exist, because they are built on the fascist model, which is 'look out for your own'. People's differences always exist, so there will always be conflict, under this model.

2017-07-26 09:03:19 UTC  

Can't wait for the world to end just so ugly dyke cunts like these won't be able to exist anymore

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/339694162024726531/1500938600230.jpg

2017-07-26 09:03:47 UTC  

Look out for your own, meaning your own people

2017-07-26 09:04:26 UTC  

WHAT ARE THOOOOOSE?!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/339694443890212874/20170726_190407.jpg

2017-07-26 09:04:32 UTC  

an ethnostate wouldn't have a dominion as such, or at least would remove the other ethnicites which would remove difference and thus conflict

2017-07-26 09:04:42 UTC  

would be removed as well

2017-07-26 09:05:19 UTC  

that is only if an ethnostates goal was world domination

2017-07-26 09:05:39 UTC  

There will always be different and conflict. Every state was an ethnostate at one point and those were even more violent times. We actually live in an age of peace.

2017-07-26 09:05:39 UTC  

Which I think normally an ethnostate is quite isolationist

2017-07-26 09:05:43 UTC  

Statistically

2017-07-26 09:06:06 UTC  

People will never run out of shit to kill each other over

2017-07-26 09:06:17 UTC  

@Deleted User Many things have changed then, not just the fact that ethnostates no longer reside in the western world..