Message from @Timo)))
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ask the people in poland how they liked the occupation
More like they promoted socialist insurgencies for the purpose of increasing international scope
or do you call it liberation?
socialists are in every country, like it or not
here's a source I haven't read yet, I assume you're going to read it all http://www3.nccu.edu.tw/~lorenzo/Jian%20China%20Involvement%20Vietnam.pdf
sure I will
you get to work on those articles boi
Thinking socialist uprisings were not stimulated by the soviet union is crazy though
I mean you at least know about afghanistan I hope
"More like they promoted socialist insurgencies for the purpose of increasing international scope"
Are you blind?
Did I not just concede that?
don't get angry
argument against what?
"Thinking socialist uprisings were not stimulated by the soviet union is crazy though" - you just threw that out there as a non-sequitur
not something I ever denied
We both agree that they did it then
" The relationship between Communist China and Vietnam was
very close in the late 1950s and early 1960s.9 The close connection with
Hanoi, as well as Beijing's revolutionary ideology, would not allow the
Chinese to go so far as to become an obstacle to the Vietnamese cause
of revolution and reunification."
so far the article seems to be suggesting that unified ideology (i.e. forming an axis against US interests in Indo-China) was a more pertinent reason for Chinese involvement in Vietnam than fiscal gain rooted in a socialist praxis
What's the difference in stopping the spread of U.S ideology or soviet ideology?
you're diverting off-topic now, but what socialist financial incentives overrode ideological solidarity in Chile & Korea?
the US was capitalist before China was communist
because, like I said, US ideology is rooted in international trade
And the socialist one spreads poverty and misery
a communist state, as history has shown us, can exist in a vacuum, at least to a certain extent
Face it, Korea and Chile are better off
Vietnam wasn't
The US demands that all non-capitalist nations be subordinated to global, financial capital
once more, not an argument
Which is for their betterment
The original contention was whether this level of death would exist under capitalism than under communism
You just don't see it as something good, which the results simply do show
which you've not only failed to adequately prove, you've further confirmed by beliefs by giving me that source
Hold on a second
''The original contention was whether this level of death would exist under capitalism than under communism''
Wasn't what I said
I said that countries always have tried to spread their ideology and squash those who oppose it
Not only communism, any other system too
I'll have to read the rest of it, but so far the thought is communism has more of an incentive to intervene in other countries to form an axis against capitalist encroachment