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2017-08-07 17:23:11 UTC  

The U.S would say they did the same in Chile and Korea

2017-08-07 17:24:11 UTC  

What's the difference in stopping the spread of U.S ideology or soviet ideology?

2017-08-07 17:24:12 UTC  

you're diverting off-topic now, but what socialist financial incentives overrode ideological solidarity in Chile & Korea?

2017-08-07 17:24:20 UTC  

the US was capitalist before China was communist

2017-08-07 17:24:44 UTC  

because, like I said, US ideology is rooted in international trade

2017-08-07 17:24:58 UTC  

And the socialist one spreads poverty and misery

2017-08-07 17:25:03 UTC  

a communist state, as history has shown us, can exist in a vacuum, at least to a certain extent

2017-08-07 17:25:22 UTC  

Face it, Korea and Chile are better off

2017-08-07 17:25:26 UTC  

Vietnam wasn't

2017-08-07 17:25:28 UTC  

The US demands that all non-capitalist nations be subordinated to global, financial capital

2017-08-07 17:25:34 UTC  

once more, not an argument

2017-08-07 17:25:39 UTC  

Which is for their betterment

2017-08-07 17:25:50 UTC  

The original contention was whether this level of death would exist under capitalism than under communism

2017-08-07 17:25:55 UTC  

You just don't see it as something good, which the results simply do show

2017-08-07 17:26:07 UTC  

which you've not only failed to adequately prove, you've further confirmed by beliefs by giving me that source

2017-08-07 17:26:17 UTC  

Hold on a second

2017-08-07 17:26:33 UTC  

''The original contention was whether this level of death would exist under capitalism than under communism''

2017-08-07 17:26:37 UTC  

Wasn't what I said

2017-08-07 17:26:57 UTC  

I said that countries always have tried to spread their ideology and squash those who oppose it

2017-08-07 17:27:06 UTC  

Not only communism, any other system too

2017-08-07 17:27:13 UTC  

I'll have to read the rest of it, but so far the thought is communism has more of an incentive to intervene in other countries to form an axis against capitalist encroachment

2017-08-07 17:27:14 UTC  

To claim it's a capitalist thing is nonsense

2017-08-07 17:27:34 UTC  

right and the U.S thought the same about soviet influence

2017-08-07 17:27:39 UTC  

not a capitalism thing at all

2017-08-07 17:27:50 UTC  

"not a good idea when posting something as evidence of the big bad capitalism killing machine"

2017-08-07 17:28:01 UTC  

you've given me some pretty good evidence of that

2017-08-07 17:28:06 UTC  

Not at all

2017-08-07 17:28:12 UTC  

Give an argument

2017-08-07 17:28:23 UTC  

As to why it's exclusive to capitalism

2017-08-07 17:29:19 UTC  

Getting bored of repeating myself, but here we go:
"Industries have financial incentives to maintain capitalist spheres of trade throughout the world
e.g. the rubber trade having an incentive to open up African markets
e.g. the Congo
"to plant their military base etc"
What does this even mean? What non-Vietnamese communist military bases existed in Vietnam?
Why would communists have an incentive to put military bases there?"

2017-08-07 17:30:00 UTC  

No shit they don't have military bases in countries directly around them, the U.S doesn't do that either

2017-08-07 17:30:11 UTC  

your 'proof' that these conditions for intervention could equally exist "under any system" is entirely insufficient

2017-08-07 17:30:19 UTC  

What the Soviet union did was to spread it to nations far from it, something the U.S also did

2017-08-07 17:30:39 UTC  

It's up to you to prove it's a capitalism thing, which it isn't

2017-08-07 17:30:41 UTC  

Gentleman.

2017-08-07 17:30:43 UTC  

communism is predicated on collective ownership & operation of the means of production, this implies no imperialist motive

2017-08-07 17:30:45 UTC  

sup

2017-08-07 17:30:49 UTC  

hahaha

2017-08-07 17:30:50 UTC  

The Jews did 9/11.

2017-08-07 17:31:05 UTC  

So trying to subvert other countries is okay as long as free trade is not a part of it?

2017-08-07 17:31:10 UTC  

What's the logic in that?