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The U.S would say they did the same in Chile and Korea
What's the difference in stopping the spread of U.S ideology or soviet ideology?
you're diverting off-topic now, but what socialist financial incentives overrode ideological solidarity in Chile & Korea?
the US was capitalist before China was communist
because, like I said, US ideology is rooted in international trade
And the socialist one spreads poverty and misery
a communist state, as history has shown us, can exist in a vacuum, at least to a certain extent
Face it, Korea and Chile are better off
Vietnam wasn't
The US demands that all non-capitalist nations be subordinated to global, financial capital
once more, not an argument
Which is for their betterment
The original contention was whether this level of death would exist under capitalism than under communism
You just don't see it as something good, which the results simply do show
which you've not only failed to adequately prove, you've further confirmed by beliefs by giving me that source
Hold on a second
''The original contention was whether this level of death would exist under capitalism than under communism''
Wasn't what I said
I said that countries always have tried to spread their ideology and squash those who oppose it
Not only communism, any other system too
I'll have to read the rest of it, but so far the thought is communism has more of an incentive to intervene in other countries to form an axis against capitalist encroachment
To claim it's a capitalist thing is nonsense
right and the U.S thought the same about soviet influence
not a capitalism thing at all
"not a good idea when posting something as evidence of the big bad capitalism killing machine"
you've given me some pretty good evidence of that
Not at all
Give an argument
As to why it's exclusive to capitalism
Getting bored of repeating myself, but here we go:
"Industries have financial incentives to maintain capitalist spheres of trade throughout the world
e.g. the rubber trade having an incentive to open up African markets
e.g. the Congo
"to plant their military base etc"
What does this even mean? What non-Vietnamese communist military bases existed in Vietnam?
Why would communists have an incentive to put military bases there?"
No shit they don't have military bases in countries directly around them, the U.S doesn't do that either
your 'proof' that these conditions for intervention could equally exist "under any system" is entirely insufficient
What the Soviet union did was to spread it to nations far from it, something the U.S also did
It's up to you to prove it's a capitalism thing, which it isn't
Gentleman.
communism is predicated on collective ownership & operation of the means of production, this implies no imperialist motive
sup
hahaha
The Jews did 9/11.
So trying to subvert other countries is okay as long as free trade is not a part of it?
What's the logic in that?