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2017-08-07 17:12:33 UTC  

"The War in Vietnam to “beat Communism” and maintain an Asian sphere of influence – 3,800,000 Vietnamese between 1955-1984 [46] about 58,000 US soldiers [47] about 200,000 in Laos [48] about 300,000 in Cambodia [49] it’s hard to calculate Agent Orange deaths but up to 4,800,000 people were exposed [50] and 100,000 US soldiers killed themselves"

2017-08-07 17:12:37 UTC  

Same reason any other country invades another country

2017-08-07 17:12:44 UTC  

to spread their influence

2017-08-07 17:12:48 UTC  
2017-08-07 17:12:57 UTC  

"to spread their influence"

2017-08-07 17:12:59 UTC  

explain.

2017-08-07 17:13:14 UTC  

What's their to explain? they would like another friendly country in asia

2017-08-07 17:13:15 UTC  

Industries have financial incentives to maintain capitalist spheres of trade throughout the world

2017-08-07 17:13:24 UTC  

to plant their military base etc

2017-08-07 17:13:37 UTC  

e.g. the rubber trade having an incentive to open up African markets

2017-08-07 17:13:44 UTC  

e.g. the Congo

2017-08-07 17:13:50 UTC  

"to plant their military base etc"

2017-08-07 17:14:08 UTC  

What does this even mean? What non-Vietnamese communist military bases existed in Vietnam?

2017-08-07 17:14:25 UTC  

Why would communists have an incentive to put military bases there?

2017-08-07 17:14:26 UTC  

China was heavily involved fam

2017-08-07 17:14:41 UTC  

source?

2017-08-07 17:14:43 UTC  

lol, why did the ussr overthrow the afghan government?

2017-08-07 17:14:54 UTC  

why did they conquer eastern europe?

2017-08-07 17:15:06 UTC  

'conquer' is a strange word

2017-08-07 17:15:23 UTC  

ask the people in poland how they liked the occupation

2017-08-07 17:15:31 UTC  

More like they promoted socialist insurgencies for the purpose of increasing international scope

2017-08-07 17:15:37 UTC  

or do you call it liberation?

2017-08-07 17:15:38 UTC  

socialists are in every country, like it or not

2017-08-07 17:16:33 UTC  

here's a source I haven't read yet, I assume you're going to read it all http://www3.nccu.edu.tw/~lorenzo/Jian%20China%20Involvement%20Vietnam.pdf

2017-08-07 17:16:46 UTC  

sure I will

2017-08-07 17:16:54 UTC  

you get to work on those articles boi

2017-08-07 17:17:35 UTC  

Thinking socialist uprisings were not stimulated by the soviet union is crazy though

2017-08-07 17:17:42 UTC  

I mean you at least know about afghanistan I hope

2017-08-07 17:17:47 UTC  

"More like they promoted socialist insurgencies for the purpose of increasing international scope"

2017-08-07 17:17:50 UTC  

Are you blind?

2017-08-07 17:17:57 UTC  

Did I not just concede that?

2017-08-07 17:18:00 UTC  

don't get angry

2017-08-07 17:19:02 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/344167568963010581/notanargument.jpg

2017-08-07 17:19:54 UTC  

argument against what?

2017-08-07 17:20:22 UTC  

"Thinking socialist uprisings were not stimulated by the soviet union is crazy though" - you just threw that out there as a non-sequitur

2017-08-07 17:20:29 UTC  

not something I ever denied

2017-08-07 17:20:57 UTC  

We both agree that they did it then

2017-08-07 17:21:17 UTC  

" The relationship between Communist China and Vietnam was
very close in the late 1950s and early 1960s.9 The close connection with
Hanoi, as well as Beijing's revolutionary ideology, would not allow the
Chinese to go so far as to become an obstacle to the Vietnamese cause
of revolution and reunification."

2017-08-07 17:22:15 UTC  

so far the article seems to be suggesting that unified ideology (i.e. forming an axis against US interests in Indo-China) was a more pertinent reason for Chinese involvement in Vietnam than fiscal gain rooted in a socialist praxis

2017-08-07 17:23:11 UTC  

The U.S would say they did the same in Chile and Korea

2017-08-07 17:24:11 UTC  

What's the difference in stopping the spread of U.S ideology or soviet ideology?