What part is the meme?

The hellenic world transformed the world and then so did the Romans, whose Empire didn't offically collapse until the 5th century. Do you think that all the infrastructure disappears over night? The 'dark ages' is a misleading term.

@Deleted User 15th century

@Valtiel We Wuz Kangz n Sheit but then da evil Mongols came and sacked Baghdad.

@Deleted User no shit. It took hundreds of years for Europe to go from Rome to Feudalism

@Deleted User That's correct. My mind is always in the Western Empire, my mistake. All praise to Constantinople.

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@National Trotskyist when the kidnapped the Persian king?

Oh wait I'm stupid ignore thay

Persians We rent Muslims

Were not*

What is: The golden age of Islam and who took the banner of Aristotlean logic and carried it further for centuries?
Who are: Farabi, **Avicenna**, Ghazali, Rumi, Sinan?
Bonus: Early stages of Ottoman Empire until 16th century

There's that side too. Don't forget Islamic Spain, that was pretty comfy.

Khawarij just need to assassinate more rulers

no big deal

This time in history is heavily politicised.

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Now I'm giving you the sources to look at, without including any personal bias.

These multi-way discussions can be confusing. But thanks.

I still don't know why you became Sufi and want to reform Islam. It seems anti-historical, where the prophet was the best example, and his companions. They were not Sufi.

Simple, it is outdated.

>outdated
How do you mean?

It's the current year?

Huh? It can't be applied to today's conditions.

what do you mean

The practice, being written and applied in deserts and 1400 years ago, is totally irrelevant to today's times.

I'm shocked.

Most of it, at least. The truth still stands there, that's why we don't put it wholely into trash bin.

this is some tip top heresy you have my friend

Allah is the best of planners?

People would like to call that, yeah. I would be beheaded in Saudi Arabia.

This sounds a lot like 'Jesus was just a nice guy, the rest of it doesn't matter'.

What new age christians say.

this sounds a lot like protestantism

but with an islamic spin

>who needs scripture anyways

Also as for me being a *leftist*, the whole idea originates around the verse: "Property belongs to Allah" (Imran - 3:180) and goes on and on from here.

The parts where it seems like it would contradict and clash with materialism, I can talk upon tomorrow, I'll be going to sleep soon.

That seems to tie into Zakat (charity). Okay, thanks for the chat.

>Allah is just a nice guy, the rest of it doesn't matter

"""Nice guy"""