Message from @Cotton

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2017-08-11 02:36:18 UTC  

Were not*

2017-08-11 02:36:53 UTC  

What is: The golden age of Islam and who took the banner of Aristotlean logic and carried it further for centuries?
Who are: Farabi, **Avicenna**, Ghazali, Rumi, Sinan?
Bonus: Early stages of Ottoman Empire until 16th century

2017-08-11 02:37:35 UTC  

There's that side too. Don't forget Islamic Spain, that was pretty comfy.

2017-08-11 02:38:09 UTC  

Khawarij just need to assassinate more rulers

2017-08-11 02:38:17 UTC  

no big deal

2017-08-11 02:38:20 UTC  

This time in history is heavily politicised.

2017-08-11 02:38:20 UTC  

😎

2017-08-11 02:38:26 UTC  

Now I'm giving you the sources to look at, without including any personal bias.

2017-08-11 02:39:28 UTC  

These multi-way discussions can be confusing. But thanks.

2017-08-11 02:40:17 UTC  

I still don't know why you became Sufi and want to reform Islam. It seems anti-historical, where the prophet was the best example, and his companions. They were not Sufi.

2017-08-11 02:40:43 UTC  

Simple, it is outdated.

2017-08-11 02:41:05 UTC  

>outdated
How do you mean?

2017-08-11 02:41:14 UTC  

It's the current year?

2017-08-11 02:41:51 UTC  

Huh? It can't be applied to today's conditions.

2017-08-11 02:42:24 UTC  

what do you mean

2017-08-11 02:43:46 UTC  

The practice, being written and applied in deserts and 1400 years ago, is totally irrelevant to today's times.

2017-08-11 02:43:57 UTC  

I'm shocked.

2017-08-11 02:44:08 UTC  

Most of it, at least. The truth still stands there, that's why we don't put it wholely into trash bin.

2017-08-11 02:44:16 UTC  

this is some tip top heresy you have my friend

2017-08-11 02:44:23 UTC  

Allah is the best of planners?

2017-08-11 02:44:36 UTC  

People would like to call that, yeah. I would be beheaded in Saudi Arabia.

2017-08-11 02:45:03 UTC  

This sounds a lot like 'Jesus was just a nice guy, the rest of it doesn't matter'.

2017-08-11 02:45:13 UTC  

What new age christians say.

2017-08-11 02:45:15 UTC  

this sounds a lot like protestantism

2017-08-11 02:45:23 UTC  

but with an islamic spin

2017-08-11 02:45:41 UTC  

>who needs scripture anyways

2017-08-11 02:45:46 UTC  

Also as for me being a *leftist*, the whole idea originates around the verse: "Property belongs to Allah" (Imran - 3:180) and goes on and on from here.

2017-08-11 02:47:34 UTC  

The parts where it seems like it would contradict and clash with materialism, I can talk upon tomorrow, I'll be going to sleep soon.

2017-08-11 02:48:48 UTC  

That seems to tie into Zakat (charity). Okay, thanks for the chat.

2017-08-11 02:54:22 UTC  

>Allah is just a nice guy, the rest of it doesn't matter

2017-08-11 02:55:12 UTC  

"""Nice guy"""

2017-08-11 02:55:47 UTC  

Maybe all that spinning around drains too much blood away from the Sufi brain.

2017-08-11 02:57:04 UTC  

Allah doesn't inherently hold a moral alignment for being 'good' or 'bad', it's just nature. Also, I don't personally spin. I meditate.

2017-08-11 02:57:22 UTC  

I would say Hellfire is pretty bad.

2017-08-11 02:58:06 UTC  

I wish we could dig deeper. Maybe another time.

2017-08-11 03:02:09 UTC  

@Deleted User Yeah, another reason for you to stay around. Good night for now.

2017-08-11 03:25:38 UTC  

If I make a tankie bunker would y'all join?

2017-08-11 03:25:47 UTC  

No

2017-08-11 03:26:18 UTC  

: (

2017-08-11 03:26:45 UTC  

Tammie buster?