Message from @Valtiel

Discord ID: 352975289938214932


2017-09-01 00:28:37 UTC  

so you're an anarcho-primitivist then?

2017-09-01 00:28:50 UTC  

no roads, no police, just the laws of nature?

2017-09-01 00:29:16 UTC  

No. What kind of dichotomy is this? And yes, but co-operation is still possible, as it suits individuals to do so.

2017-09-01 00:29:20 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/352973164424200193/pol_pot_meme.jpg

2017-09-01 00:29:35 UTC  

OOGA BOOGA

2017-09-01 00:29:49 UTC  

TECHNOLOGY BAD

2017-09-01 00:30:52 UTC  

Roads, maybe. Police, no way. Laws of nature, always. But individuals can be altruistic also.

2017-09-01 00:31:48 UTC  

Hello, I am making a nation-themed discord server. Presently, we need a base population so that we may choose a form of government and appoint leaders. Would you be interested in joining? pm me

2017-09-01 00:32:05 UTC  

Stop spamming, piglet.

2017-09-01 00:32:14 UTC  

It's called DM, not PM.

2017-09-01 00:34:22 UTC  

What kind of reactionary always associates freedom with badness? You're in no position to enforce such a claim.

2017-09-01 00:34:45 UTC  

Because humans are imperfect and there are too many of us.

2017-09-01 00:35:08 UTC  

Humans are perfect and there are not enough of us.

2017-09-01 00:35:12 UTC  

It's impossible to achieve such a system without mass casualties

2017-09-01 00:35:25 UTC  

It's not a 'system', it's the absence of it.

2017-09-01 00:36:06 UTC  

"impossible" well more like "unlikely"

2017-09-01 00:36:16 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/352974907505770496/hqdefault.png

2017-09-01 00:36:50 UTC  

Also if you cared about the human race. Anarchy is definitely not the way to go.

2017-09-01 00:36:53 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/352975064066555916/anarchy_definition.png

2017-09-01 00:37:34 UTC  

And you are the caretaker of humanity? Such a bold claim. Can I see some credentials please?

2017-09-01 00:37:47 UTC  

I am God

2017-09-01 00:37:56 UTC  

You would make an excellent Anarchist.

2017-09-01 00:38:03 UTC  

*Dog

2017-09-01 00:38:13 UTC  

No, I just have common sense. You can't into space with anarchy

2017-09-01 00:38:25 UTC  

Why not?

2017-09-01 00:38:44 UTC  

What is co-operation.

2017-09-01 00:39:07 UTC  

Because it's anarchy. People need a system to develop space programs. Co-operation doesn't begin to cut it.

2017-09-01 00:39:47 UTC  

We aren't talking about building a few roads or house. These are technologies that take years and millions of people working

2017-09-01 00:39:55 UTC  

A master of planning and logistics huh? You have many lofty qualifications.

2017-09-01 00:40:07 UTC  

Hence why anarchy won't do shit.

2017-09-01 00:40:36 UTC  

Lol even ants have a central queen

2017-09-01 00:41:07 UTC  

Did you read the definition? *Voluntary association of individuals*, there is no theoretical cap on this.

2017-09-01 00:42:27 UTC  
2017-09-01 00:42:28 UTC  

You are free do to whatever you want unless it is used to dominate others.

2017-09-01 00:42:33 UTC  

>No theoretical cap
But after you hit a certain amount humans naturally start forming systems and drawing borders.

2017-09-01 00:43:43 UTC  

Thats why we went from Hunter gathers to city states, and then from city states to nation states

2017-09-01 00:44:32 UTC  

Just because things have been done a certain way isn't justification for it.

2017-09-01 00:45:33 UTC  

Lol k.

2017-09-01 00:45:48 UTC  

Well, it's not.

2017-09-01 00:47:10 UTC  

I'm just saying that's what humans will always naturally do after they hit a large enough number. We always need a system. Same with ants, and termites. Their large numbers dictate that they have a hierarchy and a ruler

2017-09-01 00:47:59 UTC  

I'm not advocating for traditionalism and monarchy though. I'm just using it as an example