Message from @Valtiel

Discord ID: 352975402324459522


2017-09-01 00:29:20 UTC  

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2017-09-01 00:29:35 UTC  

OOGA BOOGA

2017-09-01 00:29:49 UTC  

TECHNOLOGY BAD

2017-09-01 00:30:52 UTC  

Roads, maybe. Police, no way. Laws of nature, always. But individuals can be altruistic also.

2017-09-01 00:31:48 UTC  

Hello, I am making a nation-themed discord server. Presently, we need a base population so that we may choose a form of government and appoint leaders. Would you be interested in joining? pm me

2017-09-01 00:32:05 UTC  

Stop spamming, piglet.

2017-09-01 00:32:14 UTC  

It's called DM, not PM.

2017-09-01 00:34:22 UTC  

What kind of reactionary always associates freedom with badness? You're in no position to enforce such a claim.

2017-09-01 00:34:45 UTC  

Because humans are imperfect and there are too many of us.

2017-09-01 00:35:08 UTC  

Humans are perfect and there are not enough of us.

2017-09-01 00:35:12 UTC  

It's impossible to achieve such a system without mass casualties

2017-09-01 00:35:25 UTC  

It's not a 'system', it's the absence of it.

2017-09-01 00:36:06 UTC  

"impossible" well more like "unlikely"

2017-09-01 00:36:16 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/352974907505770496/hqdefault.png

2017-09-01 00:36:50 UTC  

Also if you cared about the human race. Anarchy is definitely not the way to go.

2017-09-01 00:36:53 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/352975064066555916/anarchy_definition.png

2017-09-01 00:37:34 UTC  

And you are the caretaker of humanity? Such a bold claim. Can I see some credentials please?

2017-09-01 00:37:47 UTC  

I am God

2017-09-01 00:37:56 UTC  

You would make an excellent Anarchist.

2017-09-01 00:38:03 UTC  

*Dog

2017-09-01 00:38:13 UTC  

No, I just have common sense. You can't into space with anarchy

2017-09-01 00:38:25 UTC  

Why not?

2017-09-01 00:38:44 UTC  

What is co-operation.

2017-09-01 00:39:07 UTC  

Because it's anarchy. People need a system to develop space programs. Co-operation doesn't begin to cut it.

2017-09-01 00:39:47 UTC  

We aren't talking about building a few roads or house. These are technologies that take years and millions of people working

2017-09-01 00:39:55 UTC  

A master of planning and logistics huh? You have many lofty qualifications.

2017-09-01 00:40:07 UTC  

Hence why anarchy won't do shit.

2017-09-01 00:40:36 UTC  

Lol even ants have a central queen

2017-09-01 00:41:07 UTC  

Did you read the definition? *Voluntary association of individuals*, there is no theoretical cap on this.

2017-09-01 00:42:27 UTC  
2017-09-01 00:42:28 UTC  

You are free do to whatever you want unless it is used to dominate others.

2017-09-01 00:42:33 UTC  

>No theoretical cap
But after you hit a certain amount humans naturally start forming systems and drawing borders.

2017-09-01 00:43:43 UTC  

Thats why we went from Hunter gathers to city states, and then from city states to nation states

2017-09-01 00:44:32 UTC  

Just because things have been done a certain way isn't justification for it.

2017-09-01 00:45:33 UTC  

Lol k.

2017-09-01 00:45:48 UTC  

Well, it's not.

2017-09-01 00:47:10 UTC  

I'm just saying that's what humans will always naturally do after they hit a large enough number. We always need a system. Same with ants, and termites. Their large numbers dictate that they have a hierarchy and a ruler

2017-09-01 00:47:59 UTC  

I'm not advocating for traditionalism and monarchy though. I'm just using it as an example

2017-09-01 00:48:08 UTC  

And I'm just saying wherever hierarchy and rulers exist there will be those who want to resist it. And the Anarchists is the most self aware of this resistance.

2017-09-01 00:48:35 UTC  

K

2017-09-01 00:50:10 UTC  

History is full of examples and the future will be filled with many more. And the idea of freedom from dominance will become more and more coherent and be understood as a goal and ends in itself, which is Anarchism. It's true there is no foreseeable end to this struggle, but for me this is perfectly fine, even exciting. Anarchism just keeps on giving.