Message from @National Trotskyist
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National syndicalism.
How is it an oxymoron?
You would be making a nationalist belief in a system where there is no nation.
@Deleted User No?
THat's not how ti works.
Syndicalism does not imply the absence of a state
Wasn't Proto-Fascism called National Syndicalism? And later Falangism.
I think only anarcho-syndicalism denies the state.
It's just a melding of Nationalism (fascism) and Syndicalism as economics.
That is all.
But tbh I've heard anarchists say nationalism and anarchism are compatible
Mostly ancap retards
Ancaps are retarded.
That I can agree with you on.
But, alas
a state is not a nation.
A state is just the shapard and guide of the nation and folk.
Nationalism requires a state
@Anglican But yet, I have heard that the state is enemy of anarchists?
@olev There's a whole tendency called national-anarchism lol. What is more ironic if you read those anarchist authors like Bakunin who was a Russian nationalist and pan-Slavic union proponent you validate such opinions.
Of course it is.
I'm not an Anarchist
I'm actually pretty authortarian.
Syndicalism refers solely to economics.
When the revolutionary syndicalists took it over, they seeked to take over also social life.
By dismantling the state and establishing their own.
I rush through topics and tell myself I understand them, because it is easy to use fancy language to convince others that you know what you are talking about. My ego tells me it is sufficient but it really isn't. I'm really just a lazy moron with egotistical bias. Time to get real and stop shitposting. Look at me, I'm an idiot, point and laugh. Let's get it over with. I'm a fake.
Which they just called governence or somet shit.
If you believe nationalist anarchism exists, please explain what nationalism is
Nationalism is the support of a national identity.
This national identity can be linked to a lot of things.
But culture, ethnicity, and ideals are veyr popular.
It is upholding the culture of the nation, and promoting national interests, correct?
How does one do this without a state?
I'd say it'd be VERY hard to do it under a voluntary assocation.
It might as well not be something you even fucking attempt.
You can't
A state is simply way more effective at this.
Nationalism requires a state
Okay.