Message from @National Trotskyist

Discord ID: 353326303027396609


2017-09-01 23:48:04 UTC  

we need communism

2017-09-01 23:48:33 UTC  

No

2017-09-01 23:48:39 UTC  

we need national syndicalism

2017-09-01 23:48:39 UTC  

😃

2017-09-01 23:48:58 UTC  

We need national bolshevism

2017-09-01 23:48:59 UTC  

@Firefly#9983 I am going to stop drinking. My brain is getting sluggish. I don't even know off the top of my head. Idealistic dialectics?

2017-09-01 23:49:01 UTC  

What fucking oxy mornonism is that?

2017-09-01 23:49:10 UTC  

What's an oxymoron?

2017-09-01 23:49:14 UTC  

Oxymoronism?

2017-09-01 23:50:05 UTC  

No, I mean

2017-09-01 23:50:09 UTC  

What thing here

2017-09-01 23:50:11 UTC  

is an oxymoron

2017-09-01 23:50:32 UTC  

National syndicalism.

2017-09-01 23:50:40 UTC  

How is it an oxymoron?

2017-09-01 23:51:55 UTC  

You would be making a nationalist belief in a system where there is no nation.

2017-09-01 23:52:14 UTC  
2017-09-01 23:52:19 UTC  

THat's not how ti works.

2017-09-01 23:52:20 UTC  

Syndicalism does not imply the absence of a state

2017-09-01 23:52:25 UTC  

Wasn't Proto-Fascism called National Syndicalism? And later Falangism.

2017-09-01 23:52:35 UTC  

I think only anarcho-syndicalism denies the state.

2017-09-01 23:52:54 UTC  

It's just a melding of Nationalism (fascism) and Syndicalism as economics.

2017-09-01 23:52:56 UTC  

That is all.

2017-09-01 23:53:27 UTC  

But tbh I've heard anarchists say nationalism and anarchism are compatible

2017-09-01 23:53:34 UTC  

Mostly ancap retards

2017-09-01 23:53:43 UTC  

Ancaps are retarded.

2017-09-01 23:53:49 UTC  

That I can agree with you on.

2017-09-01 23:54:02 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/353326671442608128/8IkZyv6.jpg

2017-09-01 23:54:03 UTC  

But, alas

2017-09-01 23:54:06 UTC  

a state is not a nation.

2017-09-01 23:54:17 UTC  

A state is just the shapard and guide of the nation and folk.

2017-09-01 23:54:34 UTC  

Nationalism requires a state

2017-09-01 23:54:47 UTC  

@Anglican But yet, I have heard that the state is enemy of anarchists?

2017-09-01 23:54:48 UTC  

@olev There's a whole tendency called national-anarchism lol. What is more ironic if you read those anarchist authors like Bakunin who was a Russian nationalist and pan-Slavic union proponent you validate such opinions.

2017-09-01 23:54:58 UTC  

Of course it is.

2017-09-01 23:55:02 UTC  

I'm not an Anarchist

2017-09-01 23:55:14 UTC  

I'm actually pretty authortarian.

2017-09-01 23:55:52 UTC  

Syndicalism refers solely to economics.

2017-09-01 23:56:08 UTC  

When the revolutionary syndicalists took it over, they seeked to take over also social life.

2017-09-01 23:56:20 UTC  

By dismantling the state and establishing their own.

2017-09-01 23:56:22 UTC  

I rush through topics and tell myself I understand them, because it is easy to use fancy language to convince others that you know what you are talking about. My ego tells me it is sufficient but it really isn't. I'm really just a lazy moron with egotistical bias. Time to get real and stop shitposting. Look at me, I'm an idiot, point and laugh. Let's get it over with. I'm a fake.