Message from @Railing

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2017-09-04 04:49:33 UTC  

any society can act in self defense

2017-09-04 04:49:54 UTC  

>implying bourgeois government isn't already a criminal organisation

2017-09-04 04:50:24 UTC  

they're also betraying anarchist principles

2017-09-04 04:50:50 UTC  

Dante went full anarchist

2017-09-04 04:50:58 UTC  

"Muh evil State"

2017-09-04 04:51:29 UTC  

although I don't see why a group would want to commit genocide agaisnt another ubder anarchism

2017-09-04 04:51:30 UTC  

@Railing No shit, any society can act in self defense, but dosen't the core principles of anarchism make them valid if what they believing they are doing is just and fair in their eyes?

2017-09-04 04:51:53 UTC  

no because anarchism has its own principles

2017-09-04 04:52:09 UTC  

being anti-authoritarian also means being anti-genocide

2017-09-04 04:52:10 UTC  

You cannot expect each other to all get in a big circle and hold hands and sing kumbiah, people are always going to wage war against each other.

2017-09-04 04:52:19 UTC  

well national anarchism is a thing

2017-09-04 04:52:28 UTC  

What an oxymoron.

2017-09-04 04:52:43 UTC  

its just anarchism within a fixed set of boundaries

2017-09-04 04:53:05 UTC  

where people can seperate along lines or race, etc

2017-09-04 04:53:13 UTC  

I'm not a national anarchist ofc

2017-09-04 04:53:42 UTC  

**BOUNDARIES?! THAT IS A VIOLATION OF THE
NON
AGRESSION
PRINCIPLE
AND MUST BE SHUT DOWN **

2017-09-04 04:53:43 UTC  

If you remove the underlying conditions that motivate mass conflict, it wouldn't take place

2017-09-04 04:53:55 UTC  

Not that kind of anarchist dude

2017-09-04 04:54:02 UTC  

Ancaps are morons

2017-09-04 04:55:28 UTC  

I'm more of a left-com

2017-09-04 04:55:38 UTC  

with ancom tendencies

2017-09-04 04:56:08 UTC  

"Leftcom"

2017-09-04 04:56:16 UTC  

Nuke the muke

2017-09-04 04:56:54 UTC  

But when you remove all power from authority and force them to please everybody unless it shudders and falls apart, then you cannot expect anybody to follow any rules, that is unless people start enforcing laws and policies.

2017-09-04 04:57:24 UTC  

You cannot expect people to just take up arms and magically fight for the same side just because there is authority.

2017-09-04 04:57:59 UTC  

@Deleted User Are you saying that the only reason people are nice to each other is through coercion from the government?

2017-09-04 04:59:17 UTC  

@Wilhelm Zaisser#5032 No, but because the governments enforce laws and policies, it keeps people from preforming some pretty nasty and most likley dead stuff.

2017-09-04 05:00:24 UTC  

@Deleted User But currently the government (state) has a monopoly on violence. It's not as if people wouldn't take their own precautions if they were allowed to.

2017-09-04 05:00:28 UTC  

Governments don't enforce laws, the judiciary does.

2017-09-04 05:00:34 UTC  

Seperation of powers.

2017-09-04 05:01:37 UTC  

@Wilhelm Zaisser#5032 And that is not to say that communities would not usurp the monopoly on violence?

2017-09-04 05:02:20 UTC  

@Deleted User Communities trend towards stability, similar to how societies functioned before modern governments.

2017-09-04 05:03:24 UTC  

Societies were extremely violent before modern governments, are you saying that feudalism was less violent and more harmonious?

2017-09-04 05:04:19 UTC  

Not sure what you mean with 'extremely violent'. Stable societies cannot be extremely violent. Believe it or not, people don't like being raped and murdered.

2017-09-04 05:05:51 UTC  

>Believing societies before now were way violent

2017-09-04 05:05:57 UTC  

There was always violence in past societies, don't tell me that any society was less violent than society is now, because they were always more violent.

2017-09-04 05:06:32 UTC  

That's hilarious and very vague.

2017-09-04 05:06:45 UTC  

Even before civilization was developed, humans were much more violent.

2017-09-04 05:06:59 UTC  

How in any way was society more violent now?

2017-09-04 05:08:23 UTC  

What are you even comparing it to? Also it seems like violence may be apart of how a society is stabilised.