Message from @Orrslaw

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2017-09-09 18:07:14 UTC  

@Православие The main difference is that one have grasp and another don't?

2017-09-09 18:07:50 UTC  

@Православие is 4th position more advanced form of fascism?

2017-09-09 18:08:00 UTC  

With better people?

2017-09-09 18:08:19 UTC  

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2017-09-09 18:16:44 UTC  

@Firefly#9983 I wouldn't say it's a more advanced fascism. It's essential taking the two ideologies (communism and fascism) which combatted liberalism/capitalism/globalism/Western imperialism or whatever you want to call it in the 20th century and fusing them or taking the pieces of their ideologies which worked and expanding upon them. The main goal of 4th position is to oppose post-liberalism, which is the current state of 20th century liberalism-capitalism-Atlanticist imperialism, and end the unipolar world domination of the West. From a geopolitical perspective, the end goal of 4PT is every culture or civilization in the world basically being in charge of its own affairs.

2017-09-09 18:17:28 UTC  

@Firefly#9983

2017-09-09 18:19:10 UTC  

@Православие wasn't fascism a western imperialism?

2017-09-09 18:19:42 UTC  

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2017-09-09 18:20:45 UTC  

Yes

2017-09-09 18:21:54 UTC  

I mean for the most part it was western countries fighting each other, but it's expansion into Eurasia I would consider Western imperialism

2017-09-09 18:22:56 UTC  

So 4th position is a combination of a western imperialism(fascism) with anti-imperialism(communism) ?

2017-09-09 18:28:30 UTC  

Мне пора. Хотелось бы побольше узнать о вашей позиции в будущем.

2017-09-09 18:28:30 UTC  

Fascism is manipulated based on the nation which is implementing it to fit within its respective cultural traditions, what nations like America and Britain exported to the world was basically "be like us and kill your inferior culture!" While countries were exploited by their fascist conquerors, countries which actually implemented fascism weren't having to get rid of their traditions to do it and in many cases it was part of a national rebirth.

2017-09-09 18:29:03 UTC  

Talk later @Firefly#9983

2017-09-09 20:23:19 UTC  

308950154222895104

2017-09-09 21:28:57 UTC  

@Deleted User Lmao nice Xavier Renegade Angel reference

2017-09-09 21:29:07 UTC  

@Anglican Is that Bahai symbol?

2017-09-09 21:30:47 UTC  

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2017-09-09 21:31:16 UTC  

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2017-09-09 21:32:13 UTC  

feckin porky

2017-09-09 21:32:31 UTC  

Yep

2017-09-09 21:33:06 UTC  

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2017-09-09 21:33:38 UTC  

I hope those ifunny marks are added ironically

2017-09-09 21:33:57 UTC  

You wish haha

2017-09-09 21:41:24 UTC  

Lmao

2017-09-09 22:16:48 UTC  

Hey

2017-09-09 22:17:18 UTC  

Fuck me this place is dead :C

2017-09-09 22:17:28 UTC  

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2017-09-09 22:17:57 UTC  

tankies in a nutshell

2017-09-09 22:59:31 UTC  

*... after their mortality is highlighted, individuals feel the need to experience a sense of certain or clarity about their worldviews-the values and purpose in society. These worldviews stipulate the standards that are valued by society. If these standards are fulfilled, individuals feel their achievements will be cherished by society, instilling a sense of permanence. Accordingly, these worldviews imbue life with a sense of meaning and purpose.*

2017-09-09 23:01:13 UTC  

*Alternatively, to override existential anxiety, individuals are more inclined to assume that some facet of themselves, perhaps their soul, is immortal. They do, for example, become more inclined to believe in an afterlife (Dechesne et al., 2006).*

2017-09-09 23:01:39 UTC  

*Many researchers maintain that a variety of religious tenets, such as the belief in an afterlife, represent defense mechanisms, intended to curb existential anxiety (Norenzayan & Hansen, 2006).*

2017-09-09 23:03:37 UTC  

Tito is the best

2017-09-09 23:08:54 UTC  

*Becker describes human pursuit of “immortality projects” (or causa sui), in which an we create or become part of something that we feel will outlast our time on earth. In doing so, we feel that we become heroic and part of something eternal that will never die, compared to the physical body that will eventually die. This gives human beings the belief that our lives have meaning, purpose, and significance in the grand scheme of things.*

2017-09-09 23:09:54 UTC  

*Still, for Becker, the only suitable source of meaning is transcendent, cosmic energy, divine purpose:

"But I don’t think one can be a hero in any really elevating sense without some transcendental referent like being a hero for God, or for the creative powers of the universe. The most exalted type of heroism involves feeling that one has lived to some purpose that transcends oneself. This is why religion gives him the validation that nothing else gives him. … When you finally break through your character armor and discover your vulnerability, it becomes impossible to live without massive anxiety unless you find a new power source. And this is where the idea of God comes in (Keen 1974)."*

2017-09-09 23:15:32 UTC  

*Science attempts to serve as an immortality project, something that Becker believes it can never do, because it is unable to provide agreeable, absolute meanings to human life.*

2017-09-09 23:22:47 UTC  

*...the only suitable source of meaning is transcendent, cosmic energy, divine purpose*

2017-09-09 23:22:54 UTC  

**divine purpose**

2017-09-09 23:30:51 UTC  

*Thus, since humanity has a dualistic nature consisting of a physical self and a symbolic self, we are able to transcend the dilemma of mortality through heroism, by focusing our attention mainly on our symbolic selves. This symbolic self-focus takes the form of an individual's "immortality project" (or "causa sui project"), which is essentially a symbolic belief-system that ensures oneself is believed superior to physical reality. By successfully living under the terms of the immortality project, people feel they can become heroic and, henceforth, part of something eternal; something that will never die as compared to their physical body. This, in turn, gives people the feeling that their lives have meaning, a purpose, and are significant in the grand scheme of things.*