Message from @Americana - MD

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2017-09-12 02:36:26 UTC  

What?

2017-09-12 02:36:45 UTC  

>natural disasters don't have a legacy

2017-09-12 02:37:08 UTC  

I simply don't follow what you're saying

2017-09-12 02:37:40 UTC  

Happy moments are fleeting. Trauma lasts forever.

2017-09-12 02:37:48 UTC  

^

2017-09-12 02:38:32 UTC  

being destructive was a good thing for most of history

2017-09-12 02:43:09 UTC  

It wans't good, it gained you more

2017-09-12 02:46:39 UTC  

I guess I am in the minority, taking existential questions seriously. Maybe I am just an evolutionary failure, not humanity.

2017-09-12 02:47:21 UTC  

@Deleted User Sorry, what?

2017-09-12 02:47:44 UTC  

It's faith.

2017-09-12 02:47:53 UTC  

Faith is not rational

2017-09-12 02:47:59 UTC  

None of us are gonna really prove eachother wrong unles we follow the same faiht.

2017-09-12 02:48:21 UTC  

Even then, we may interperate the historical understanding there of or our holy books very differently

2017-09-12 02:48:23 UTC  

Don't you think that could possibly be the whole base upon organized superstitious beliefs?

2017-09-12 02:48:36 UTC  

Hoping that it's real?

2017-09-12 02:48:49 UTC  

No one but fedora atheists will discuss those types of points.

2017-09-12 02:48:54 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/356994555305918464/1c45d56813cb30f98781db50b815dfc9a6a00560e88d2ce5243792a335a5c2bb.png

2017-09-12 02:48:57 UTC  

If it ain't true, then we die and go no where.

2017-09-12 02:49:16 UTC  

@Anglican I'll talk these points whatever bro

2017-09-12 02:49:22 UTC  

But even then, we did honorable things in this word to more widely improve.

2017-09-12 02:49:34 UTC  

Exactly

2017-09-12 02:49:36 UTC  

I'm not a fedora atheist

2017-09-12 02:49:40 UTC  

I don't know that God does not exist

2017-09-12 02:49:41 UTC  

That's all that matters nigga

2017-09-12 02:52:49 UTC  

If I don't know God doesn't exist, I'm not an atheist

2017-09-12 02:53:08 UTC  

@Americana - MD#3916 All? I disagree that it is 'all' that matters. I believe that the faith has inherent value, and it should actually matter more to you then out doing others in the material.

2017-09-12 02:53:15 UTC  

As well, atheism is the lack of theism.

2017-09-12 02:53:30 UTC  

Atheism is the belief that God doesn't exist

2017-09-12 02:53:33 UTC  

Agnosticism and gnosticism relate to levels of belief and disbelief.

2017-09-12 02:53:54 UTC  

I am a gnostic theist/deist, **I know** there is some form of non-material existance.

2017-09-12 02:54:14 UTC  

But I am an agnostic to my own faith and other faiths because I can't truly be sure of it or myself.

2017-09-12 02:54:17 UTC  

I don't think non-material existence and atheism are incompatible

2017-09-12 02:54:24 UTC  

You'd be an agnostic atehist.

2017-09-12 02:54:50 UTC  

Not 100% sure, but I don't believe the mind is material

2017-09-12 02:54:57 UTC  

Otherwise free will can't exist

2017-09-12 02:55:05 UTC  

Not inherently, but there is a distinct difference between how atheists and theists/deists would see it.

2017-09-12 02:55:12 UTC  

Free will doesn't exist.

2017-09-12 02:55:29 UTC  

By purely material scientific methods, not really.

2017-09-12 02:55:31 UTC  

I'm not educated enough on philosophy to really have a debate about this

2017-09-12 02:55:58 UTC  

How do you know that God exists?

2017-09-12 02:56:11 UTC  

But... Listen to me when I say this with all my heart; the science can go choke a dick. There is much more then these atoms.