Message from @olev

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2017-09-12 02:34:23 UTC  

he is looking for humble rightenousness

2017-09-12 02:34:27 UTC  

and spiritual soundness

2017-09-12 02:35:21 UTC  

Which even if your people is all you need for confidence and boldness, this is not true for him. I'd say the only people that you should try to expose to both are people without either.

2017-09-12 02:35:24 UTC  

Which you can still find in your ancestors.

2017-09-12 02:35:36 UTC  

Not them alone.

2017-09-12 02:35:46 UTC  

If they were destructive people they wouldn't have left a long last legacy fam

2017-09-12 02:36:25 UTC  

....

2017-09-12 02:36:26 UTC  

What?

2017-09-12 02:36:45 UTC  

>natural disasters don't have a legacy

2017-09-12 02:37:08 UTC  

I simply don't follow what you're saying

2017-09-12 02:37:40 UTC  

Happy moments are fleeting. Trauma lasts forever.

2017-09-12 02:37:48 UTC  

^

2017-09-12 02:38:32 UTC  

being destructive was a good thing for most of history

2017-09-12 02:43:09 UTC  

It wans't good, it gained you more

2017-09-12 02:46:39 UTC  

I guess I am in the minority, taking existential questions seriously. Maybe I am just an evolutionary failure, not humanity.

2017-09-12 02:47:21 UTC  

@Deleted User Sorry, what?

2017-09-12 02:47:44 UTC  

It's faith.

2017-09-12 02:47:53 UTC  

Faith is not rational

2017-09-12 02:47:59 UTC  

None of us are gonna really prove eachother wrong unles we follow the same faiht.

2017-09-12 02:48:21 UTC  

Even then, we may interperate the historical understanding there of or our holy books very differently

2017-09-12 02:48:23 UTC  

Don't you think that could possibly be the whole base upon organized superstitious beliefs?

2017-09-12 02:48:36 UTC  

Hoping that it's real?

2017-09-12 02:48:49 UTC  

No one but fedora atheists will discuss those types of points.

2017-09-12 02:48:54 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/356994555305918464/1c45d56813cb30f98781db50b815dfc9a6a00560e88d2ce5243792a335a5c2bb.png

2017-09-12 02:48:57 UTC  

If it ain't true, then we die and go no where.

2017-09-12 02:49:16 UTC  

@Anglican I'll talk these points whatever bro

2017-09-12 02:49:22 UTC  

But even then, we did honorable things in this word to more widely improve.

2017-09-12 02:49:34 UTC  

Exactly

2017-09-12 02:49:36 UTC  

I'm not a fedora atheist

2017-09-12 02:49:40 UTC  

I don't know that God does not exist

2017-09-12 02:49:41 UTC  

That's all that matters nigga

2017-09-12 02:52:49 UTC  

If I don't know God doesn't exist, I'm not an atheist

2017-09-12 02:53:08 UTC  

@Americana - MD#3916 All? I disagree that it is 'all' that matters. I believe that the faith has inherent value, and it should actually matter more to you then out doing others in the material.

2017-09-12 02:53:15 UTC  

As well, atheism is the lack of theism.

2017-09-12 02:53:30 UTC  

Atheism is the belief that God doesn't exist

2017-09-12 02:53:33 UTC  

Agnosticism and gnosticism relate to levels of belief and disbelief.

2017-09-12 02:53:54 UTC  

I am a gnostic theist/deist, **I know** there is some form of non-material existance.

2017-09-12 02:54:14 UTC  

But I am an agnostic to my own faith and other faiths because I can't truly be sure of it or myself.

2017-09-12 02:54:17 UTC  

I don't think non-material existence and atheism are incompatible

2017-09-12 02:54:24 UTC  

You'd be an agnostic atehist.

2017-09-12 02:54:50 UTC  

Not 100% sure, but I don't believe the mind is material