a communist state would be a better term

That's an oxymoron

Okay well you proved you know nothing about marxism/communism/socialism

Goodbye

for all intents and purposes i am referring to communist societies and communist states

hey i just look at the statistics, my friend

it starves its people and you cant deny this

i can get some statistics if you want me to

Yeah no reason to even look into why that is

Don't even consider any conditions or problems

It's obviously the planning

i can see how you think that

I'm not going to talk with you if you're so uneducated about everything

You will literally gain no knowledge from this if you don't even understand communism

but you have it all wrong here see

all types of government intervention is detrimental

government cant control everything and the things it does control are better off in the peoples' hands

this so-called "free society" promised under communism is itself an oxymoron

you look at venezuela for example as i said before with its regulations on businesses for the "common good"

Regulations aren't socialism holy shit

leading to food shortages and shorter life spans

regulations are government

socialism is government

communism is government

its all the same effects

of course they're different in the way they're implemented

>shorter life spans

Do you want to tell me why Cuba has a larger life expectancy than the US

Please educate yourself

You have no idea what you're talking about

the life exp. of cuba is less than 1 year above the US

and their population is much less

That's still more

also demographically they are less diverse

What does diversity have to do with this

that is a demographics issue and it's not even very noticeable

if this is one of your main points it isnt a very good one

do you agree that government regulations and socialism/communism both involve government intervention?

even though they're different

Socialism: social ownership and democratic control of the means of production

Socialism (in Marxism): a mode of production which has superseded capitalism and production is solely for use, the law of value is no longer present, production is coordinated through economic planning, and economic output is distributed based upon contribution