Socialism is inherently democratic.

if you can briefly break down why the ideas are incompatible?

well technically yes it is in the early stages

it is the transition period

Correct

well the ideas are incompatible because communism advocates for a one-party state

essentially that is the quick answer

I am not sure if I am down with marx and his idea of a one party state and no markets and a total command economy

I thing democracy within the state and democracy within the workplace makes sure people get their needs met

I am no expert on leftist ideology but those ideas seem not that great imo

Communism advocates for NO state. Communism entails the non-existence of states, classes, and the monetary-system. Social stratification simply cannot exist within communism.

well that's just it: it's impossible

real communism has never been achieved

and it never will be

because it is not possible

trotskites irl

stalinists irl

I am not sure how you get to a classless stateless society

thats it, you cant

>makhnovia

Primitive Communism has existed in numerous cultures throughout history, but full-communism has never existed. It will though, in my opinion.

if it never did in the past when it was attempted, what makes you think it is actually possible

why is communism better than socialism in your opinion?

logically it fucks itself over

also how do we get there?

@quiscalus Socialism will bring about wide-reaching changes in the sphere of social and economic development.

you need to understand what socialism is first

it's not a standalone ideology like politicians say

Socialism leads to communism. It is merely a transitional stage.

it's the transition from capitalism to communism

yes

many people have this notion where socialism is somehow its own thing

it's not

just because a system fails doesn't mean it is impossible, capitalism failed in the past and people reverted to feudalism or older methods of society

and it cant be

capitalist societies have failed, this is true

however many crises can be avoided

via deregulation and lower taxes, as well as the federal reserve controlling interest rates

among other factors

we learn from the past

I just feel capitalist societies have largely led to large concentration of power and wealth in society and led to masses deprived of material needs and political power