real communism has never been achieved

and it never will be

because it is not possible

trotskites irl

stalinists irl

I am not sure how you get to a classless stateless society

thats it, you cant

>makhnovia

Primitive Communism has existed in numerous cultures throughout history, but full-communism has never existed. It will though, in my opinion.

if it never did in the past when it was attempted, what makes you think it is actually possible

why is communism better than socialism in your opinion?

logically it fucks itself over

also how do we get there?

@quiscalus Socialism will bring about wide-reaching changes in the sphere of social and economic development.

you need to understand what socialism is first

it's not a standalone ideology like politicians say

Socialism leads to communism. It is merely a transitional stage.

it's the transition from capitalism to communism

yes

many people have this notion where socialism is somehow its own thing

it's not

just because a system fails doesn't mean it is impossible, capitalism failed in the past and people reverted to feudalism or older methods of society

and it cant be

capitalist societies have failed, this is true

however many crises can be avoided

via deregulation and lower taxes, as well as the federal reserve controlling interest rates

among other factors

we learn from the past

I just feel capitalist societies have largely led to large concentration of power and wealth in society and led to masses deprived of material needs and political power

I will agree with you that the Fed is a major problem.

the federal reserve is the cause of the 2007 crisis

bullshit with the "deregulation was the problem"

the fed and its meddling with interest rates

isn't it banks and other financial institutions gambling with the world economy and peoples investments

is the cause of much of society's problems

?

well thats a part of it

most of the time, it's the governments who give the banks that power

by giving them bailouts and lower interest rates

bailouts for banks is a huge mistake

just a product of corruption