Message from @swampy_maroon

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2017-06-07 07:26:20 UTC  

Augustine when was he born Mros?

2017-06-07 07:26:52 UTC  

Would god be loving if he created robots with no free will

2017-06-07 07:27:06 UTC  

but that doesn't mean he wouldn't be able to use evil and turn it into good

2017-06-07 07:27:14 UTC  

Exactly

2017-06-07 07:27:29 UTC  

If man did not have free will it would be impossible for him to be good

2017-06-07 07:27:31 UTC  

Mro when was augustine born?

2017-06-07 07:27:37 UTC  

So evil is the same as good?

2017-06-07 07:27:46 UTC  

354

2017-06-07 07:28:09 UTC  

And what century would that be?

2017-06-07 07:28:16 UTC  

It's the 4th century

2017-06-07 07:28:17 UTC  

Did God know that the devil would create evil?

2017-06-07 07:28:20 UTC  

Yes.

2017-06-07 07:28:27 UTC  

Evil is that which does not elevate god as he should be

2017-06-07 07:28:52 UTC  

God made the being which made evil.

2017-06-07 07:28:52 UTC  

Thus, humanity would have turned to evil by turning away in shame and disobediance to god

2017-06-07 07:29:22 UTC  

Why would a loving God make a being which creates evil?

2017-06-07 07:29:39 UTC  

Would a loving god creating a reality where choice is not possible

2017-06-07 07:29:41 UTC  

Mros you realize they didn't have th evidence that contradicts the words in the bible

2017-06-07 07:29:51 UTC  

Yes.

2017-06-07 07:29:59 UTC  

>Implying the Bible contradicts

2017-06-07 07:30:00 UTC  

Really?

2017-06-07 07:30:08 UTC  

How loving to have no choice at all

2017-06-07 07:30:21 UTC  

Without free will man cannot be good

2017-06-07 07:30:31 UTC  

Love has nothing to do with choice.

2017-06-07 07:30:49 UTC  

And god has chosen in his divine forbearance to use the ill choice of the devil for good

2017-06-07 07:30:55 UTC  

A loving God will give man the choice to love him.

2017-06-07 07:30:59 UTC  

and triump over him through the person of Christ

2017-06-07 07:31:00 UTC  

Or to reject him

2017-06-07 07:31:15 UTC  

The literal incarnation of god in human form to conquer satan and sin forever

2017-06-07 07:32:03 UTC  

Why does love require choice?

2017-06-07 07:32:13 UTC  

ask yourself

2017-06-07 07:32:26 UTC  

If I gave you no choice on whether or not to enter into a marriage

2017-06-07 07:32:26 UTC  

If you are unable to reject something can you really say that you love it?

2017-06-07 07:32:35 UTC  

Would that be loving

2017-06-07 07:33:03 UTC  

Yes. I love my mother. No less because I dud not choose it.

2017-06-07 07:33:20 UTC  

Also your looking at this wrong

2017-06-07 07:33:28 UTC  

*you're

2017-06-07 07:33:45 UTC  

Chopin you could still choose to hate your mother.

2017-06-07 07:34:07 UTC  

Love is a state of being. It does not need choice to arrive at.

2017-06-07 07:34:40 UTC  

Assuming choice is a real thing and not just a sensation.

2017-06-07 07:34:49 UTC  

What if the person you're marrying was the one who forced it would it be love in their eyes?