Message from @swampy_maroon
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What
It must have been agonizing
I spent 3 years
No,
St. Augustine spent 17 years before he converted.
I was saying I am not ignorant
If God is all knowing, he knew that the Devil would create evil. If God created the Devil, he also created evil. Unless he did not know it would happen.
Unless god was able to foresee that, and incorpate the free choice of the devil into his sovereign plan
Augustine when was he born Mros?
Would god be loving if he created robots with no free will
but that doesn't mean he wouldn't be able to use evil and turn it into good
Exactly
If man did not have free will it would be impossible for him to be good
Mro when was augustine born?
So evil is the same as good?
354
And what century would that be?
It's the 4th century
Did God know that the devil would create evil?
Yes.
God made the being which made evil.
Thus, humanity would have turned to evil by turning away in shame and disobediance to god
Why would a loving God make a being which creates evil?
Would a loving god creating a reality where choice is not possible
Mros you realize they didn't have th evidence that contradicts the words in the bible
Yes.
>Implying the Bible contradicts
Really?
How loving to have no choice at all
Without free will man cannot be good
Love has nothing to do with choice.
And god has chosen in his divine forbearance to use the ill choice of the devil for good
A loving God will give man the choice to love him.
and triump over him through the person of Christ
Or to reject him
The literal incarnation of god in human form to conquer satan and sin forever
Why does love require choice?
ask yourself
If I gave you no choice on whether or not to enter into a marriage
If you are unable to reject something can you really say that you love it?