Message from @swampy_maroon

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2017-06-07 07:28:52 UTC  

God made the being which made evil.

2017-06-07 07:28:52 UTC  

Thus, humanity would have turned to evil by turning away in shame and disobediance to god

2017-06-07 07:29:22 UTC  

Why would a loving God make a being which creates evil?

2017-06-07 07:29:39 UTC  

Would a loving god creating a reality where choice is not possible

2017-06-07 07:29:41 UTC  

Mros you realize they didn't have th evidence that contradicts the words in the bible

2017-06-07 07:29:51 UTC  

Yes.

2017-06-07 07:29:59 UTC  

>Implying the Bible contradicts

2017-06-07 07:30:00 UTC  

Really?

2017-06-07 07:30:08 UTC  

How loving to have no choice at all

2017-06-07 07:30:21 UTC  

Without free will man cannot be good

2017-06-07 07:30:31 UTC  

Love has nothing to do with choice.

2017-06-07 07:30:49 UTC  

And god has chosen in his divine forbearance to use the ill choice of the devil for good

2017-06-07 07:30:55 UTC  

A loving God will give man the choice to love him.

2017-06-07 07:30:59 UTC  

and triump over him through the person of Christ

2017-06-07 07:31:00 UTC  

Or to reject him

2017-06-07 07:31:15 UTC  

The literal incarnation of god in human form to conquer satan and sin forever

2017-06-07 07:32:03 UTC  

Why does love require choice?

2017-06-07 07:32:13 UTC  

ask yourself

2017-06-07 07:32:26 UTC  

If I gave you no choice on whether or not to enter into a marriage

2017-06-07 07:32:26 UTC  

If you are unable to reject something can you really say that you love it?

2017-06-07 07:32:35 UTC  

Would that be loving

2017-06-07 07:33:03 UTC  

Yes. I love my mother. No less because I dud not choose it.

2017-06-07 07:33:20 UTC  

Also your looking at this wrong

2017-06-07 07:33:28 UTC  

*you're

2017-06-07 07:33:45 UTC  

Chopin you could still choose to hate your mother.

2017-06-07 07:34:07 UTC  

Love is a state of being. It does not need choice to arrive at.

2017-06-07 07:34:40 UTC  

Assuming choice is a real thing and not just a sensation.

2017-06-07 07:34:49 UTC  

What if the person you're marrying was the one who forced it would it be love in their eyes?

2017-06-07 07:34:51 UTC  

A state of being often is preceded by a choice leading up to that point

2017-06-07 07:35:12 UTC  

Except you're not forced to love God. The proof? The fact that you can reject him.

2017-06-07 07:35:13 UTC  

Often but not necessary.

2017-06-07 07:35:21 UTC  

Mros

2017-06-07 07:35:21 UTC  

In the cases where it isn't, it simply is

2017-06-07 07:35:27 UTC  

God not you

2017-06-07 07:35:28 UTC  

like natural phenemmenon

2017-06-07 07:35:32 UTC  

Love does not allow evil.

2017-06-07 07:35:46 UTC  

Love is doing what is best for someone

2017-06-07 07:35:46 UTC  

Actually it does

2017-06-07 07:35:52 UTC  

Well no

2017-06-07 07:35:55 UTC  

It's wanting the best for someone

2017-06-07 07:36:01 UTC  

it would be a non factor