But yeah highly recommend that debate, or shorter videos on the sidebar if you don't have time

can you cite him though?

I'd highly argue against capitalism being viewed as the free market

He's said many times that the system we have now is not actually capitalism

you'd be wrong, sorry

well then what is it?

what did feudalism get replaced by?

Dude I don't write it down

Capitalism isn't the same as it was in the 20's

the 20s?

The states influence rose over the years

1920

1920?

Yes, the decade of the 1920s

what is wrong?

what does it have to do with anyithng?

Way more capitalistic than what we have now

closer to actual capitalism

but then what do we have now?

corporatism

I don't understand this notion that capitalism is not a mode of production

state involvement in things as welfare and healthcare

It's not fair capitalism if you have top compete with the state

why not just say livertarianism instead of capitalism?

if you wanna say free market

libertarianism also has the social freedom, capitalism doesn't say much about homosexuality and such

the only way I see that you can put capitalism into some historical perspective is to call it a mode of production, a social relation of production. This was exactly what changed when we went from feudalism to capitalism in the american and french revolutions

and it was what changed in the anarchist revolutions

and it was what changed when people revolted against slave society

I don't see another way to properly put capitalism into it's place in history

Well shame for you then

Still very much recommend that debate I linked, a fair debate with two competent sides

who are the sides?

I'm not gonna watch it sorry, or atleast not tonight

doesn't have to be tonight

Simply socialists vs capitalists

what kind of socialist?

dude lmao

watch it or don't

I'm just interested

will this be obvious shortly into the debate?