Message from @Timo)))
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shit they noticed nobody was in the internatonal channel
also that video is very lon
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But yeah highly recommend that debate, or shorter videos on the sidebar if you don't have time
can you cite him though?
I'd highly argue against capitalism being viewed as the free market
He's said many times that the system we have now is not actually capitalism
you'd be wrong, sorry
well then what is it?
what did feudalism get replaced by?
Dude I don't write it down
Capitalism isn't the same as it was in the 20's
the 20s?
The states influence rose over the years
1920
1920?
Yes, the decade of the 1920s
what is wrong?
what does it have to do with anyithng?
Way more capitalistic than what we have now
but then what do we have now?
corporatism
I don't understand this notion that capitalism is not a mode of production
state involvement in things as welfare and healthcare
It's not fair capitalism if you have top compete with the state
why not just say livertarianism instead of capitalism?
if you wanna say free market
libertarianism also has the social freedom, capitalism doesn't say much about homosexuality and such
the only way I see that you can put capitalism into some historical perspective is to call it a mode of production, a social relation of production. This was exactly what changed when we went from feudalism to capitalism in the american and french revolutions
and it was what changed in the anarchist revolutions
and it was what changed when people revolted against slave society
I don't see another way to properly put capitalism into it's place in history
Well shame for you then
Still very much recommend that debate I linked, a fair debate with two competent sides
who are the sides?
I'm not gonna watch it sorry, or atleast not tonight
doesn't have to be tonight
Simply socialists vs capitalists
what kind of socialist?
dude lmao