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In everything there are winners and losers, but you have to make it so you can win or lose to make it work at all
Try making a casino in which you always leave without winning or losing
That's neat rhetoric, but the problem is that neither the government or the dindu business man are actually held responsible to the workers.
I can pretend the government is democratic
The businessman is absolutely more hurt by the loss than a government worker
I don't care. I'm selfish and I want an economy with organized labor and democracy in the workplace.
Well you can get it in venezuela and cuba
I can get it here too.
Good luck, I don't think you can
Unless you go work for the post office, which are notoriously slow
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One of my roommates worked for the post office
She was like 64 or something and they wouldn't let her retire because she hadn't worked for them consecutively long enough
And she worked 6 days a week for 10-12 hours a day.
I'd work slow with those hours too lol
fuck me that's bad
Yeah their postmaster was ancient apparently
Like 70 or something
Some ridiculous age where people shouldn't be working anymore
I think a lot of small town post offices end up like that
eh, a lot of stagnation if you get one of those jobs
pay is good for when you're young, then you stay and become comfortable
And the people who took a risk will pass you by mostly
Seen it many times in government organizations, i've worked for some
hi
other people's money?
the whole system of property exists because of the state protecting property rights
which allow the capitalist to steal the labour of the worker and to give back only a fraction of it, in the form of the wages
the one who uses other people's money is the capitalist
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The capitalist does it with your permission, the state does it by the threat of a gun
And if you make it easier for a worker to start his own business you give him the chance to be his own boss
Business grants are great tbh, even though financial management classes are just better
the capitalist does not do it with your permission, you are coerced by the economic system
How so?
you're not able to live a good life without working for a company, you have no ability to meaningfully negotiate wages
coerced because it is simply better
you're always at fear of being fired, etc. etc.
You do if you have the skills
@Deleted User That's not true at all