Having a business being government owned doesn't mean much if it still is organized like a capitalist company.

I mean for a centralized industry it works great

A government business will never be organized like a capitalistic company, simply by the fact that it cannot fail.

Like for mining or transportation.

Worst(best) case scenario it gets sold

What kikeshit are you talking about boy?

Good reply

Everything is "government owned" in America

Not at all

If you don't pay your taxes you don't get to keep your stuff.

That's something else from actually making the decisions in that business

The fact is that no one will make better decision for a company than the man who has a risk to lose it all or win it all

are you sure about that?

Government backed businesses never fail and for it it makes bad decisions

Absolutely

Why would a government worker who uses other peoples money make better decisions?

I don't expect either to be particularly great.

Doesn't have to be great, just better

In everything there are winners and losers, but you have to make it so you can win or lose to make it work at all

Try making a casino in which you always leave without winning or losing

That's neat rhetoric, but the problem is that neither the government or the dindu business man are actually held responsible to the workers.

I can pretend the government is democratic

The businessman is absolutely more hurt by the loss than a government worker

I don't care. I'm selfish and I want an economy with organized labor and democracy in the workplace.

Well you can get it in venezuela and cuba

I can get it here too.

Good luck, I don't think you can

Unless you go work for the post office, which are notoriously slow

🤔

One of my roommates worked for the post office

She was like 64 or something and they wouldn't let her retire because she hadn't worked for them consecutively long enough

And she worked 6 days a week for 10-12 hours a day.

I'd work slow with those hours too lol

fuck me that's bad

Yeah their postmaster was ancient apparently

Like 70 or something

Some ridiculous age where people shouldn't be working anymore

I think a lot of small town post offices end up like that

Though the pay isn't too bad

eh, a lot of stagnation if you get one of those jobs

pay is good for when you're young, then you stay and become comfortable