Message from @Flavaflavius

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2017-07-22 22:30:59 UTC  

CAN U GOD DAMN NIGGERS SHUT THE FUCK UP

2017-07-22 22:31:36 UTC  

Do you even know what nationalism is? You continue to use it as if it's the opposite of communism.

2017-07-22 22:31:49 UTC  

Nationalism: Extreme love for one's country.
Communism: An economic policy.

2017-07-22 22:32:21 UTC  

Ukrainian nationalism is just a symptom of the larger problem that a breakup of a large state brings, just as in Austria-Hungary.

2017-07-22 22:32:29 UTC  

Is not a correct type of nationalism in Ukraine?

2017-07-22 22:33:00 UTC  

I will not repeat myself a fourth time.

2017-07-22 22:34:58 UTC  

1) If nationalists turn your country in shithole blame communism. 2) If the country is economically dependent nationalism won't work. 3) Is not real nationalism.

2017-07-22 22:35:01 UTC  

So far

2017-07-22 22:35:05 UTC  

Our progress

2017-07-22 22:35:34 UTC  

nationalism is antithetical to communism

2017-07-22 22:35:40 UTC  

Austria-Hungary experienced the same thing but without communism. Nationalism didn't turn any of the countries that came out of it into a shithole, it was merely symptomatic of the breakup.

2017-07-22 22:35:53 UTC  

^this

2017-07-22 22:36:07 UTC  

Hungary experienced both economic ruin and nationalism. Where was the communism?

2017-07-22 22:36:34 UTC  

For heavy nationalism to form, you require a sense of victimhood, such as in the Weimar republic.

2017-07-22 22:36:41 UTC  

Ukraine was a shithole because of communism before, but after the breakup of the USSR it didn't become more of a shithole because of nationalism. It's the same scenario.

2017-07-22 22:37:43 UTC  

That's not entirely true, Flavaflavius. Nationalism existed in pre-WWI imperialist states as Jingoism without the need for victimhood.

2017-07-22 22:38:05 UTC  

@carlton™ What do I say to my hungry family members? 75$ a month is an awesome salary? We blame not people in power who did it? We support them?

2017-07-22 22:38:24 UTC  

You can't just blame everything on nationalism.

2017-07-22 22:38:52 UTC  

Again, whenever you breakup a larger state the intricacies of its internal economy break down and everything turns to shit.

2017-07-22 22:38:53 UTC  

What can you blame nationalism for?

2017-07-22 22:38:58 UTC  

Yeah, but I meant as extreme. Like making the leap from opressing people in your colony, to lynching the guy down the street

2017-07-22 22:39:05 UTC  

Nazis, for one. But not Ukraine.

2017-07-22 22:39:20 UTC  

fuck off commies get off my yard

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2017-07-22 22:39:33 UTC  

Kek

2017-07-22 22:39:45 UTC  

@carlton™ Ukraine government did nothing wrong? Why half of the country left already?

2017-07-22 22:40:13 UTC  

I actually came here as part of raid from /k/, but y'all are already really divided anyway.

2017-07-22 22:40:23 UTC  

You are deluded if you think half the entire population of a country left because of nationalism. I think THAT is symptomatic of a larger uneducated view of the topic.

2017-07-22 22:40:44 UTC  

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2017-07-22 22:40:57 UTC  

@carlton™ tell me more about my country people please.

2017-07-22 22:41:03 UTC  

That's 2 for 2 @Ted Kaczynski Keep up the spice memes

2017-07-22 22:41:34 UTC  

Where is the economic basis for nationalism that allows you to assume nationalism ruined the country?

2017-07-22 22:41:39 UTC  

Nationalism has no economic policy.

2017-07-22 22:41:52 UTC  

>Nationalism has no economic policy.

2017-07-22 22:41:58 UTC  

This gets funnier

2017-07-22 22:42:17 UTC  

firefly

2017-07-22 22:42:19 UTC  

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2017-07-22 22:42:27 UTC  

how fucking tarded are you

2017-07-22 22:42:37 UTC  

You COULD say there's implied economic policies such as protectionaism over free trade, but that's a bit of a stretch.

2017-07-22 22:42:48 UTC  

>implying nationalism is protectionism kek

2017-07-22 22:42:48 UTC  

And nothing as comprehensive as communism/capitalism.

2017-07-22 22:43:07 UTC  

Nationalists typically don't pursue free trade policies.