Even in the most primitive societies, prostitution exists.

Several animal species practice prostitution.

Your argument is just dumb, to be blunt.

inb4 communism would be a utopia where everyone would have everything so there would be no prostitutes

Even in this impossible system prostitution is still a service people would want.

I don't see all prostitution as inherently negative. There's just conditions present in my country and others that make it less about human empowerment, and more about degrading.

There are conditions present in any country, in any society, in any people that have ever existed, which made prostitution viable.

Humans are always going to have sex, the primary concern should be whether their needs are met

How does capitalism solve desire?

I have yet to see a successful implementation of communism, so for now on all you have is "this is how it WILL be".

…so long as women have any control over who they reproduce with, there will always be prostitution

it is a biological weapon

We've yet to see successful capitalism

Xd

Successful in the sense it isn't perfect in every way? No. We haven't seen successful capitalism.

Levels of prosperity and individual freedoms unprecedented in human history? Yep. That's capitalism.

Capitalism: being around the last 200 years makes us the only way to increase prospect

What you define as "successful" becomes moot when you only define a communist utopia as successful.

One that has never existed, I might add.

Capitalism isn't a perfect system, but it's certainly successful. A lot more successful than any attempt at communism.

A"capitalist" country didn't exist at the time people were throwing their Kings out

Yes, it did. The establishment of the merchant class in the 1300's meant the abolishment of feudalism and the birth of capitalism before it was even established as an economic theory.

You are very uneducated on this topic.

Monarchism is not mutually exclusive with capitalism lmao

We will very likely have a communist utopia once we obtain a massive robotic slave work force.

Sounds great. I've yet to see it happen though.

Or they'll just kill off the poor

So for now it's empty theories and hot air.

Can you try to look at it holistically? Firstly, forced prostitution is a byproduct of poverty, which is a byproduct of capitalism. I will concede that point to you. But every economic system in history, including any attempt at communism, has also had poverty and therefore forced prostitution.

Poverty is a byproduct of the inherent inequality humanity has, and that capitalism exploits for the betterment of a society it exists in.

People who are smart become entrepreneurs, people who aren't work for them. This is how it works in theory, and there are a bunch of factors in play that make that not always work, but for the most part it evens out.

Naturally you will have poor people, just as in any system.

You are an idealist to think you can fight poverty. Economically, a communist utopia makes no sense.

The thing people tend to forget is that being poor in a capitalistic society beats being poor in any other society

How exactly would labor needs be allocated in a stateless society?

"muh democratic communes" <- This makes 0 fucking sense

prostitution is unrelated to economy tbh, it's a biological tool women have to get ahead… even in a social or job related context, like sex for power

not necessarily a product of any poverty

I already explained that to him, but I'm not sure he was convinced. So I'm arguing from within his own framework.

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Is it possible to redpill a communist if red is the color of communism? 🤔