Message from @carlton™

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2017-07-26 11:53:36 UTC  

We've yet to see successful capitalism

2017-07-26 11:53:41 UTC  

Xd

2017-07-26 11:53:58 UTC  

Successful in the sense it isn't perfect in every way? No. We haven't seen successful capitalism.

2017-07-26 11:54:26 UTC  

Levels of prosperity and individual freedoms unprecedented in human history? Yep. That's capitalism.

2017-07-26 11:54:46 UTC  

Capitalism: being around the last 200 years makes us the only way to increase prospect

2017-07-26 11:54:51 UTC  

What you define as "successful" becomes moot when you only define a communist utopia as successful.

2017-07-26 11:55:02 UTC  

One that has never existed, I might add.

2017-07-26 11:55:24 UTC  

Capitalism isn't a perfect system, but it's certainly successful. A lot more successful than any attempt at communism.

2017-07-26 11:55:41 UTC  

A"capitalist" country didn't exist at the time people were throwing their Kings out

2017-07-26 11:56:15 UTC  

Yes, it did. The establishment of the merchant class in the 1300's meant the abolishment of feudalism and the birth of capitalism before it was even established as an economic theory.

2017-07-26 11:56:24 UTC  

You are very uneducated on this topic.

2017-07-26 11:56:36 UTC  

Monarchism is not mutually exclusive with capitalism lmao

2017-07-26 11:56:59 UTC  

We will very likely have a communist utopia once we obtain a massive robotic slave work force.

2017-07-26 11:57:34 UTC  

Sounds great. I've yet to see it happen though.

2017-07-26 11:57:38 UTC  

Or they'll just kill off the poor

2017-07-26 11:57:39 UTC  

So for now it's empty theories and hot air.

2017-07-26 11:59:35 UTC  

Can you try to look at it holistically? Firstly, forced prostitution is a byproduct of poverty, which is a byproduct of capitalism. I will concede that point to you. But every economic system in history, including any attempt at communism, has also had poverty and therefore forced prostitution.

2017-07-26 12:00:31 UTC  

Poverty is a byproduct of the inherent inequality humanity has, and that capitalism exploits for the betterment of a society it exists in.

2017-07-26 12:00:58 UTC  

People who are smart become entrepreneurs, people who aren't work for them. This is how it works in theory, and there are a bunch of factors in play that make that not always work, but for the most part it evens out.

2017-07-26 12:01:18 UTC  

Naturally you will have poor people, just as in any system.

2017-07-26 12:01:32 UTC  

You are an idealist to think you can fight poverty. Economically, a communist utopia makes no sense.

2017-07-26 12:01:44 UTC  

The thing people tend to forget is that being poor in a capitalistic society beats being poor in any other society

2017-07-26 12:02:57 UTC  

How exactly would labor needs be allocated in a stateless society?

2017-07-26 12:03:06 UTC  

"muh democratic communes" <- This makes 0 fucking sense

2017-07-26 12:05:52 UTC  

prostitution is unrelated to economy tbh, it's a biological tool women have to get ahead… even in a social or job related context, like sex for power

2017-07-26 12:06:13 UTC  

not necessarily a product of any poverty

2017-07-26 12:06:18 UTC  

I already explained that to him, but I'm not sure he was convinced. So I'm arguing from within his own framework.

2017-07-26 12:06:24 UTC  

ah

2017-07-26 12:06:57 UTC  

Is it possible to redpill a communist if red is the color of communism? 🤔

2017-07-26 12:07:14 UTC  

in either case true ni🅱:b:as gotta keep their ladies on a tight chain

2017-07-26 12:07:40 UTC  

hell yeah nigga 😎

2017-07-26 12:08:22 UTC  

🇨🇳 > 🇹🇼 tbh

2017-07-26 12:08:59 UTC  

lately yes

2017-07-26 12:09:24 UTC  

KMT stopped being KMT

2017-07-26 12:09:32 UTC  

Lately as in the past 90 years tbh

2017-07-26 12:09:59 UTC  

no thanks, I prefer economic development tbh

2017-07-26 12:10:47 UTC  

if that means white girl has to come here for their cheap plastic surgery, so be it

2017-07-26 12:11:20 UTC  

White people are sicc 👌

2017-07-26 12:11:24 UTC  

yeah

2017-07-26 12:11:26 UTC  

love being white

2017-07-26 12:11:30 UTC  

White powah