Message from @is not daijoubu

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2017-07-26 11:36:32 UTC  

lol

2017-07-26 11:42:04 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308995540782284817/339734111851642882/b7wq8weyweaz.png

2017-07-26 11:44:31 UTC  

Why does it just "say" capitalism @is not daijoubu

2017-07-26 11:45:26 UTC  

Because capitalism creates the condition where we both 1. Have people forced into selling their bodies and 2. Arrest them for doing such

2017-07-26 11:46:13 UTC  

tell me a gulag story, stalin @carlton™

2017-07-26 11:46:14 UTC  

The Soviet Union also created a condition where people were forced into selling their bodies, and were arrested for doing so.

2017-07-26 11:46:21 UTC  

Guess socialism is also bad. 😦

2017-07-26 11:46:33 UTC  

Prostitution has ALWAYS existed in every society.

2017-07-26 11:46:38 UTC  

It's not symptomatic of capitalism at all.

2017-07-26 11:47:07 UTC  

Forced prostitution is something linked to capital

2017-07-26 11:47:21 UTC  

If all needs are provided there is no need to be forced

2017-07-26 11:47:45 UTC  

Abolishment of money wouldn't abolish the goods that money was used as a medium to acquire. Wherever something someone wants exists, prostitution can also exist.

2017-07-26 11:47:53 UTC  

Even in the most primitive societies, prostitution exists.

2017-07-26 11:48:00 UTC  

Several animal species practice prostitution.

2017-07-26 11:48:06 UTC  

Your argument is just dumb, to be blunt.

2017-07-26 11:50:53 UTC  

inb4 communism would be a utopia where everyone would have everything so there would be no prostitutes

2017-07-26 11:51:04 UTC  

Even in this impossible system prostitution is still a service people would want.

2017-07-26 11:52:10 UTC  

I don't see all prostitution as inherently negative. There's just conditions present in my country and others that make it less about human empowerment, and more about degrading.

2017-07-26 11:52:30 UTC  

There are conditions present in any country, in any society, in any people that have ever existed, which made prostitution viable.

2017-07-26 11:52:38 UTC  

Humans are always going to have sex, the primary concern should be whether their needs are met

2017-07-26 11:53:02 UTC  

How does capitalism solve desire?

2017-07-26 11:53:04 UTC  

I have yet to see a successful implementation of communism, so for now on all you have is "this is how it WILL be".

2017-07-26 11:53:15 UTC  

…so long as women have any control over who they reproduce with, there will always be prostitution

2017-07-26 11:53:28 UTC  

it is a biological weapon

2017-07-26 11:53:36 UTC  

We've yet to see successful capitalism

2017-07-26 11:53:41 UTC  

Xd

2017-07-26 11:53:58 UTC  

Successful in the sense it isn't perfect in every way? No. We haven't seen successful capitalism.

2017-07-26 11:54:26 UTC  

Levels of prosperity and individual freedoms unprecedented in human history? Yep. That's capitalism.

2017-07-26 11:54:46 UTC  

Capitalism: being around the last 200 years makes us the only way to increase prospect

2017-07-26 11:54:51 UTC  

What you define as "successful" becomes moot when you only define a communist utopia as successful.

2017-07-26 11:55:02 UTC  

One that has never existed, I might add.

2017-07-26 11:55:24 UTC  

Capitalism isn't a perfect system, but it's certainly successful. A lot more successful than any attempt at communism.

2017-07-26 11:55:41 UTC  

A"capitalist" country didn't exist at the time people were throwing their Kings out

2017-07-26 11:56:15 UTC  

Yes, it did. The establishment of the merchant class in the 1300's meant the abolishment of feudalism and the birth of capitalism before it was even established as an economic theory.

2017-07-26 11:56:24 UTC  

You are very uneducated on this topic.

2017-07-26 11:56:36 UTC  

Monarchism is not mutually exclusive with capitalism lmao

2017-07-26 11:56:59 UTC  

We will very likely have a communist utopia once we obtain a massive robotic slave work force.

2017-07-26 11:57:34 UTC  

Sounds great. I've yet to see it happen though.

2017-07-26 11:57:38 UTC  

Or they'll just kill off the poor

2017-07-26 11:57:39 UTC  

So for now it's empty theories and hot air.

2017-07-26 11:59:35 UTC  

Can you try to look at it holistically? Firstly, forced prostitution is a byproduct of poverty, which is a byproduct of capitalism. I will concede that point to you. But every economic system in history, including any attempt at communism, has also had poverty and therefore forced prostitution.