Message from @Americus

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2019-06-14 06:39:10 UTC  

That’s great. We’ll have achieved automation

2019-06-14 06:39:19 UTC  

Actually 40

2019-06-14 06:39:19 UTC  

@Americus that's called a post scarcity Economy

2019-06-14 06:39:28 UTC  

Which will lead to the eventual nullification of capitalism and labor

2019-06-14 06:39:37 UTC  

As well as economic class

2019-06-14 06:41:22 UTC  

Machines are coldly logical. Population growth will cause them to make the only logical decision. There is no such thing as post scarcity, as long as there are growing populations there will always be a struggle for resources

2019-06-14 06:43:01 UTC  

Industrialized nations have a neutral population flux

2019-06-14 06:43:17 UTC  

^ yuh

2019-06-14 06:43:35 UTC  

If the whole world was industrialized and lived in comfort then population would eventually even out

2019-06-14 06:43:55 UTC  

At least based on the data we have from every nation that had ever industrialized

2019-06-14 06:44:15 UTC  

Americus

2019-06-14 06:44:21 UTC  

Ai will not advance that fast

2019-06-14 06:44:39 UTC  

global economic disaster will first speed up the decay of capitalism

2019-06-14 06:44:54 UTC  

fascism solves nothing at that point so

2019-06-14 06:45:22 UTC  

Food production has a maximum level, the earth does not have enough resources to support the population of the Earth if every nation can produce surpluses. In the short term there will be massive population growth but it is unsustainable in the long run

2019-06-14 06:45:40 UTC  

we have enough food production to feed 1.8 times the population

2019-06-14 06:45:44 UTC  

Then we can expand outwards

2019-06-14 06:45:46 UTC  

Then we better spread out

2019-06-14 06:45:54 UTC  

space colonization is plausible

2019-06-14 06:45:57 UTC  

long term

2019-06-14 06:46:01 UTC  

AI's growth is exponential, it is highly likely that we will see AI capable of handling the macro economy

2019-06-14 06:46:13 UTC  

Make the red planet red! <:HammerAndSickle:575369911690461207>

2019-06-14 06:46:27 UTC  

um

2019-06-14 06:46:32 UTC  

No that wont come for a while

2019-06-14 06:46:38 UTC  

also not to mention the population is leveling off

2019-06-14 06:47:08 UTC  

We still have the same base problem though of population growth and climate change. Do we just keep spreading and using up every resource until we all starve?

2019-06-14 06:47:50 UTC  

Population growth isn't an issue, the population is leveling out

2019-06-14 06:48:07 UTC  

No

2019-06-14 06:48:09 UTC  

Climate change is gonna cause mass genocide

2019-06-14 06:48:12 UTC  

AI, while incredibly useful, will cause a greater change to the global economy than the industrial revolution and it will come a million times faster and harder

2019-06-14 06:48:18 UTC  

We face our population issues when they arise

2019-06-14 06:48:25 UTC  

Like any other issue

2019-06-14 06:48:26 UTC  

By then its too late

2019-06-14 06:48:38 UTC  

We don't just lay down and give up

2019-06-14 06:48:59 UTC  

Impending economic collapse and climate change is going to be the cause of mass genocide

2019-06-14 06:49:04 UTC  

it will cause the decline of capital

2019-06-14 06:49:08 UTC  

Well given the fact that we consume living material, it seems like a high increase in our population could be supplemented through advanced agricultural methods. There is no cap to the amount of food we can make, at least as far as I know

2019-06-14 06:49:21 UTC  

^

2019-06-14 06:50:25 UTC  

Who controls the capital is irrelevant. It is the mode of production that will cause global problems, mainly industrial/tech based industries

2019-06-14 06:50:55 UTC  

Imagine a global dust bowl, that is the result of permanent mass agricultural production

2019-06-14 06:51:35 UTC  

The dust bowl was the result of poor methods. We don’t just have dust bowls annually