Message from @nemurin
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they will no longer be under the foibles of dreamers manipulating them into patterns for their amusement
@nemurin and those individuals will find a way to rule themselves. as they should.
but not everyone is like that.
there is no un-corrupt movement nor even all encompassing good just a set of preferences in the mortal coil
and to help people reach a peacable environment for life in the most peaceful way possible should be the aim
which varies to group and individual broadly
@nemurin if there is no collective good i have no reason to work collectively.
Where is my arm chair emoji when I need it
what collective do you refer to?
its goals are usually defined rather brutely and enforced rather uniformly
obama
this is an aside but are any of you fine folks studied on historical catholic liturgy
im writing something and need those historical deets
All I know is what it lacks
Smh
yeah im gonna have to find some dyed in the wool fundie or actually email a historian
or learn latin lol
@nemurin constantine is rolling in his grave
Bruh just get on some Christian server there are plenty of people that can help you there as long as it's a normal one
Its kind of an odd thing i need in pre-tridenterian mass and ritual information
so id have to find some server afilliated with religious history as the texts are sparse on the exact subject
do you all believe in free will
I do, yes
not relevant but I’d like to know
compatibilism is the only one that makes sense
oh alright. Well, how?@vespertilionineVigilante
How do you explain free will
It's when you have an option to choose between different things and it's not predetermined?
its hard to really boldly claim that decisions are more than the output of recursive reaction to the environment and genetics
^ this
but at the same time empiricsm will never be able to determine something with surety
so there will always be room for an inexplicable phenomena in the micro level decisions
Eh
I'm pretty sure we have free will but we're just influenced in favor of some decisions depending on the circumstances
Even if you accurately modeled every process of the brain postulating a thought, which must be different for each individual, you would be left having to explain why the quantum particles that dictate the broader movements are arranged in their particular way
and so on and backwards
so empiricism and casulity will never really meet each other
i beleive that free will and determinism are not incompatable.
in fact one is needed for the other
how can you make decisions if your environment is not ordered and determined
if your decision just flew away in some non linear time soup then it could be hardly called will at all