Message from @Ned Kelly

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2019-07-13 16:00:31 UTC  

Hello

2019-07-13 16:01:17 UTC  

How's the server doing currently? Any special events?

2019-07-13 16:16:09 UTC  

Not that I know of

2019-07-13 16:20:23 UTC  

Huh, well, anyone want to discuss a topic then?

2019-07-13 19:03:50 UTC  

Who here is on the Big Boy Muscle Squad server

2019-07-13 19:04:00 UTC  

Or is in contact with the owner

2019-07-13 19:07:43 UTC  

Oh

2019-07-13 19:33:57 UTC  

lmoa

2019-07-13 20:07:51 UTC  

who in here is into theology?

2019-07-13 20:19:04 UTC  

me

2019-07-13 20:26:50 UTC  

good,now i want your opinion on a book i read,do you think theology separated christianity into other religious groups?

2019-07-13 20:47:55 UTC  

Theology didn’t have much part in it as it was a political move to divide up the churches

2019-07-13 20:55:15 UTC  

but do you think it created other religions?

2019-07-13 20:57:10 UTC  

In what context? 🤔

2019-07-13 20:57:19 UTC  

Lutheranism and Protestantism?

2019-07-13 20:57:26 UTC  

yes

2019-07-13 20:57:59 UTC  

Lutheranism spread because of the decadence of the Catholic church

2019-07-13 20:59:18 UTC  

I doubt the average peasant would’ve cared if its purely about theology

2019-07-13 20:59:44 UTC  

It impacted the ideas behind some of the churches

2019-07-13 21:00:26 UTC  

But beyond that, most of the followers came because of incompetence within the church

2019-07-13 21:03:06 UTC  

@lordeguilherme I'm into theology

2019-07-13 21:03:11 UTC  

Orthodox theology specifically

2019-07-13 21:03:16 UTC  

But I'm into Christian theology

2019-07-13 21:03:58 UTC  

Also theology did in fact have an effect on the Protestant reformation

2019-07-13 21:04:12 UTC  

It's wrong to say it was just political

2019-07-13 21:06:48 UTC  

Its not all political lol, but most nobles sided with the church due to their lack of influence in their politics

2019-07-13 21:07:05 UTC  

Martin Luther came up with the idea of "Sola Fide" and "Sola Scriptura." Sola Fide basically means salvation by faith alone. Sola Scriptura denies the veneration of saints and says the word of Christ only comes from the Bible

2019-07-13 21:07:06 UTC  

The average peasant wasnt converted because of deep theological debate

2019-07-13 21:07:41 UTC  

Yes but Luther did come up with new theological ideas

2019-07-13 21:08:54 UTC  

I would say they were more reformed in a sense, since the original church had followed closely to what he was trying to create with his new branch

2019-07-13 21:22:44 UTC  

woah

2019-07-13 21:22:47 UTC  

Theology?

2019-07-13 21:23:03 UTC  

I’m into Buddhist Theology if that’s cool

2019-07-13 21:23:06 UTC  

Lol no Luther made up shit

2019-07-13 21:23:11 UTC  

Lutheranism spread because of the Hundred Years' War resulting in some secularism, and also because the Church didn't realize the damage it'd do to society so they were too scared to execute him before he caused any trouble:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Years%27_War

Luther came up with sola scriptura, but sola fide is a Calvinist thing. Calvinism does derive from Lutheranism though.

Protestants didn't reform anything, they actively made up their own doctrine and broke off from the Catholics. And if you look at Luther's own writings, you can see that the idea that the Lutherans were protesting corruption in the Church is one that was made up long after his time, because he wasn't complaining about any of that (because the Church wasn't actually corrupt). Luther's complaint was that he didn't believe in free will.

2019-07-13 21:24:04 UTC  

What?

2019-07-13 21:24:26 UTC  

The 100 years war involved France, Burgundy, Iberia, and England

2019-07-13 21:24:34 UTC  

Never any parts of Protestantism

2019-07-13 21:25:11 UTC  

Those were the states involved in the war itself, but it affected the rest of Christendom as well.

2019-07-13 21:25:35 UTC  

How?