Message from @Ned Kelly
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lmoa
who in here is into theology?
me
good,now i want your opinion on a book i read,do you think theology separated christianity into other religious groups?
Theology didn’t have much part in it as it was a political move to divide up the churches
but do you think it created other religions?
In what context? 🤔
Lutheranism and Protestantism?
yes
Lutheranism spread because of the decadence of the Catholic church
I doubt the average peasant would’ve cared if its purely about theology
It impacted the ideas behind some of the churches
But beyond that, most of the followers came because of incompetence within the church
@lordeguilherme I'm into theology
Orthodox theology specifically
But I'm into Christian theology
Also theology did in fact have an effect on the Protestant reformation
It's wrong to say it was just political
Its not all political lol, but most nobles sided with the church due to their lack of influence in their politics
Martin Luther came up with the idea of "Sola Fide" and "Sola Scriptura." Sola Fide basically means salvation by faith alone. Sola Scriptura denies the veneration of saints and says the word of Christ only comes from the Bible
Yes but Luther did come up with new theological ideas
I would say they were more reformed in a sense, since the original church had followed closely to what he was trying to create with his new branch
woah
Theology?
I’m into Buddhist Theology if that’s cool
Lol no Luther made up shit
Lutheranism spread because of the Hundred Years' War resulting in some secularism, and also because the Church didn't realize the damage it'd do to society so they were too scared to execute him before he caused any trouble:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Years%27_War
Luther came up with sola scriptura, but sola fide is a Calvinist thing. Calvinism does derive from Lutheranism though.
Protestants didn't reform anything, they actively made up their own doctrine and broke off from the Catholics. And if you look at Luther's own writings, you can see that the idea that the Lutherans were protesting corruption in the Church is one that was made up long after his time, because he wasn't complaining about any of that (because the Church wasn't actually corrupt). Luther's complaint was that he didn't believe in free will.
What?
The 100 years war involved France, Burgundy, Iberia, and England
Never any parts of Protestantism
Those were the states involved in the war itself, but it affected the rest of Christendom as well.
How?
The War of the Roses impacted it more
Because the various kingdoms throughout Christendom were all united due to the way their governments were structured. The kings only ruled over each respective one, but the Church ruled over all of them by ruling over each king.
Besides, even if the Church was corrupt and Luther wanted to fix it, all he had to do was report it to the offending clergy's higher-ups in the hierarchy and thus get them expelled. The fact that he didn't do that showed that he clearly had something else in mind, as his own writings show.
I really hate defending Luther
But he “attempted” to reform the church
No he didn't.
Idk why you deny the church was corrupt at the time
Simony is not a good reputation to have