Message from Gaius Mucius Scaevola in Fitness #general


2018-04-03 08:58:01 UTC  

@Aleis⊕)))#9030 absolutely. And wrestling is one of the most effective martial arts in the world.

2018-04-03 14:17:29 UTC  

Wrestling is a must IMHO

2018-04-03 16:15:37 UTC  

I remember back in the day when everyone said bjj was the most effective martial art style. Then the American wrestlers came along and used body control to stop the bjj practitioners. Cannot choke or arm bar anyone when you cannot move. I think Russan Sambo is the best for grappling.

2018-04-03 16:35:28 UTC  

@halfMc Disagree. Watch the first couple dozen UFCs. BJJ beat wrestling 100% of the time in the days before MMA evolved. Wrestling does not teach submission techniques. We have wrestlers come into my gym and it's the same story: they are experts at getting us to the mat but, once there, it's our game.

2018-04-03 16:35:59 UTC  

The other thing about BJJ v wrestling is that you don't use your legs as arms in wrestling.

2018-04-03 16:36:41 UTC  

Also, wrestlers aren't taught how to fight from their backs.

2018-04-03 16:36:51 UTC  

Sambo, agree, that's a different story.

2018-04-03 16:37:12 UTC  

Yeah like I said in the beginning bjj was the best, the the Amercan wrestlers figured out how to control them

2018-04-03 16:37:57 UTC  

Sambo is a combo of jj wrestling and judo so it's crazy grappling

2018-04-03 16:42:22 UTC  

@Deleted User for example the first time I saw a wrestler figure it out was when Dan Henderson fought Anderson Silva, if you watch the first round of that fight Henderson controls Silva's body. Dan ended up catching a knee in the 2nd round and losing the fight but it showed that wrestling can neutralize jujitsu

2018-04-03 16:45:02 UTC  

That was UFC 82 in 2008. By that time, MMA had been a thing for almost a decade. You should watch the first 20 to 40 UFCs between 1993 and 2003. There wasn't american wrestlers beating BJJ practictioners, everyone (including strikers) figured it all out at the same. Right around the time of Randy Couture, Chuck Liddel, Matt Hughes, etc

2018-04-03 16:49:06 UTC  

Yeah when I was little the Gracias were my favorite, Royce used to choke everyone out with his ghee.

2018-04-03 16:50:51 UTC  

I need to go re-watch those as an adult cuz I only remember them through kids eyes. But again that is why I was excited when Henderson figured it out...It's not that exciting to watch though cuz the wrestlers look like they are just laying on them.

2018-04-03 16:53:17 UTC  

And how come Damion Maia never got a Title shot? He destroyed Gunner Nelson which is a pretty big deal I thought

2018-04-03 17:36:18 UTC  

The UFC discriminates against grapplers because you get more PPV sales when strikers fight. Exceptions are there, but all the young fighters they promote and give big fights to are primarily strikers who work on take down defense and 'anti-bjj'.

2018-04-03 17:58:13 UTC  

Takedown defense is probably the best defense against BJJ.

2018-04-03 18:55:32 UTC  

That is true cuz casual viewers don't know what's happening when you grapple. That's why it was good that Joe Rogan comentated back in the mid 2000s because he would explain it. That's how I learned what I was watching.

2018-04-03 18:57:15 UTC  

I'm pumped that my cousins agreed to watch the fights with me this Saturday...they used to be all ...muh it's to violent, they will be hooked soon enough

2018-04-03 19:51:42 UTC  

whether its more effective or not, I'd like to learn real wrestling techniques for the sake of heritage, or have my children learn it.

2018-04-03 19:52:50 UTC  

but I do think it is effective...the man who invented Krav Maga (Israeli self defense) based most of it on European-style wrestling and boxing

2018-04-03 19:54:31 UTC  

My martial arts class focuses almost entirely on striking with a few throws and no grappling

2018-04-03 19:54:53 UTC  

I'm planning on enrolling in a BJJ class in the fall to augment my arsenal

2018-04-03 20:13:03 UTC  

@Aleis⊕ccidentalis you can't go wrong training in wrestling. It is very effective.

2018-04-03 20:56:13 UTC  

Let us not forget, the deadliest of techniques........ 😉 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU8DDJRwjkI

2018-04-03 21:18:20 UTC  

What do you guys think of LA fitness? I know of lots of gyms that that are known for ripping people off, but it seems like a pretty good place

2018-04-03 21:33:06 UTC  

Pretty generic

2018-04-03 21:33:11 UTC  

Relatively fair prices

2018-04-03 21:33:40 UTC  

Good things like saunas and all the weights you would need

2018-04-03 21:33:54 UTC  

Nothing special but if it's close and accessible do it

2018-04-04 13:34:27 UTC  
2018-04-05 13:44:21 UTC  

How much do you guys on a cut tend to fluctuate in weight? I tend to go from 168-173 depending on the day.

2018-04-05 14:10:28 UTC  

3 pounds

2018-04-05 14:10:40 UTC  

Up and down. Stuck at 167

2018-04-05 14:11:10 UTC  

Average 7k calorie deficit each week.

2018-04-05 17:09:55 UTC  

+-5lbs

2018-04-05 17:10:30 UTC  

If water consumption is a constant and I am good about my eating times then it's less, maybe 3 lbs

2018-04-05 21:49:12 UTC  

Anybody see that drama with Conor and khabib

2018-04-05 21:49:42 UTC  

Conor keeps it real AF

2018-04-05 22:09:30 UTC  

You know that breaks Dana's heart, Conor was his cash cow

2018-04-05 22:10:02 UTC  

Now he has to fire him