Message from Zyzz in Literature Club #discussion_botm

2018-01-12 02:31:20 UTC  

Is this something you guys would want to voice chat about or just message within this channel? If we message within the channel, it allows everyone to contribute over time and saves our discussion. Doing it over voice chat may be more enjoyable but then we might lack participation.

2018-01-12 02:51:44 UTC  

We can do both

2018-01-12 02:55:31 UTC  

I definitely think a weekly voice chat would be good

2018-01-12 02:55:58 UTC  

Yeah, I'm thinking voice chat

2018-01-12 02:56:30 UTC  

put it to a vote but i am with voice (i always assumed it would be over voice)

2018-01-12 02:56:39 UTC  

Then it will need to be structured

2018-01-12 02:57:08 UTC  

So Ill talk, you all comment 😆

2018-01-12 02:58:41 UTC  

@Zyzz I don't think voting is necessary, because both can happen. It isn't up to me, though.

2018-01-12 03:06:50 UTC  

What's the time gonna be?

2018-01-12 03:12:40 UTC  

Im good for whatever time you guys decide. I'm not the best public speaker, is there anyone else that would like to take the lead and I could moderate to keep us on track and offer content and questions

2018-01-12 06:32:50 UTC  

I like both

2018-01-12 06:33:46 UTC  

I have a busy weekend with my local group so I cant guarantee I'll be there for voice chat but I'll definitely be checking the text discussion. 📱

2018-01-12 13:20:24 UTC  

"Beware of False Friends" - I'm thinking here of those de Gaulle described as 'kids jumping about crying: Europe! Europe!' talking of renaissance, but all the while defending decadent, permissive, censorious values that envisage Europe as a sort of 'tolerant' Disneyland, open to the world, an ethnopluralist pandemonium - without a defining identity, an internal order, or a will to power. The ideological lure of such discourses is great, especially if conveyed in intellectually pretentious language. It's of utmost importance, though, that we resist such pseudo-identitarians, whose conformity and craving for respectability surreptitiously camouflage multiracial and multicultural dogmas in the form of a European idea that actually dissociates Europe from her 'imperial idea.

2018-01-12 13:20:53 UTC  

^^Faye predictied the Alt-Lite in 2001

2018-01-12 15:06:07 UTC  

He sure did.

2018-01-12 18:13:03 UTC  

Faye is talking about Benoist and co. in that quote. The alt lite is too dumb to be accused of anything like "intellectually pretentious discourse" lol

2018-01-12 19:08:06 UTC  

@Neoptolemos IDK, Molyneux can be *right there*

2018-01-12 19:08:39 UTC  

There are a few alt lites that are intellectuals. However the vast majority are not.

2018-01-12 19:30:10 UTC  

The Alt lite thinks they are intellectuals and some have British accents so that's good enough for some people

2018-01-12 20:13:03 UTC  

Poor lauren southernites

2018-01-14 14:34:13 UTC  

@here so just to be clear we are reading up to "Strategic Principles"?

2018-01-14 16:44:49 UTC  

@Zyzz 65 pages. Up until Chapter 3.

2018-01-14 16:45:32 UTC  

@CarletonJ I have the ebook so pages are different. Can you tell me the title of chp 3? Is it Strategic Principles?

2018-01-14 16:47:26 UTC  

Let me check

2018-01-14 16:49:42 UTC  

@Zyzz yeah, that's where we're ending.

2018-01-14 17:06:21 UTC  

Thank you

2018-01-14 18:24:24 UTC  

Alt-Light is a good starting point. Once an Alt-Light person comes across Jared Taylor, they will be convinced in most cases.

2018-01-14 20:20:44 UTC  

Uncle Jared ftw.

2018-01-15 01:09:40 UTC  

Gee-um Fi

2018-01-15 01:16:31 UTC  

[pg. 15] "America may collude with forces of Islam to divide and weaken Europe for the sake of her global empire,"

2018-01-15 01:26:08 UTC  

[pg. 18] "This mandate, as the world's sole superpower, successor of Rome, would lead it to wage 'humanitarian wars' (Serbia, Kosovo, Iraq, etc.) in the name of its disordering global nomos; to enthrone the abstract, disembodied 'human rights' everywhere at the expense of historic and customary rights; to prevent all regulation of High Finance or Wall Street, and to use its vast powers to uphold the claim that the U.S. economy (and, by implication, the U.S. itself) had evolved, as Greenspan put it in 1998, 'beyond history' (i.e., beyond the realities that once conditioned economic/political behavior); etc.

Against the Philistines of the Marxist Left (who betrayed the European working class for the detritus of an overpopulated Third World) and against the Babbitts of the so-called Right (whose one and only God is Mammon), Faye saw that the anti-European, multicultural, reality-denying forces of America’s global economic order would experience (within a decade) not just a long patch of very stormy
weather, when their fantasy projects and hyper-power plans would succumb to certain formerly-denied realities-he saw that their self-generating catastrophes, and the interregnum they would create, were about to give the ‘resistance’ another opportunity to throw off
liberalism’s death-embrace ---and, once the chaos passed, inaugurate a Fourth Age of European civilisation."

2018-01-15 01:29:17 UTC  

[pg. 19] "In times of indoctrinated lies and well-bred civil cowardice, the courage to tell the truth mutates into a cardinal sin, as the few who take on the challenge must share the heretics' hopeless fate of banishment."

2018-01-15 01:29:52 UTC  

[pg. 19]  "Should Europe not succeed in awakening its life-giving instinct for resistance, her peoples and cultures could be hopelessly lost forever."

2018-01-15 01:32:52 UTC  

[pg. 19]  "But which destruction, which dangers, which death really threatens Europe? Just as the legendary hydra, these threats are like a multi-headed monster. Her decline is evident in the loss of her defining values: the fading away of an attachment to her people; a consciousness of her identity, history, and ethnicity; principles of selection, merit, and excellence; organic democracy; a will to power, an ethics of honor, and a striving to go beyond the human. The dangers, on the other hand, can be seen everywhere: toadying before the watchdog America; consumerism and mercantilism behind the grotesque face of Homo oeconomicus; emasculation and the cult of homosexuality with its various shades of degraded morality, universalism, globalism and mondialism of all shades and with all prayer wheels; individualism and, as the lethal culmination of it all, ethnomasochism and xenophilia of all origins and colours. This mental, spiritual and political degeneration into death knows many languages, names and forms, and then, at the very end, it rips its mask off: the demographic decline of the White peoples, the secret implantation of Islam -which will carry out its merciless assault once its time has come - and finally the planting of a genetic bomb, whose delayed destination will inevitably lead to racial chaos and destruction.

2018-01-15 01:33:05 UTC  

Contrary to the suicidal opinions held by the sorcerers’ apprentices of the multi-racial heresies, the analysis made by all experts on immigration, demographics and economics are symptomatic of an ever widening gulf opening up between the clear vision of the scientists and the dementia of the dysfunctional political class. Herwig Birg, for example, the manager of the Institut fur Bevolkerungsforschung und Sozialpolitik of the University of Bielefeld, gets straight to the point: ‘Little by little we are moving this country towards the Second or Third World. I say this with conviction... Germany has much to lose - a culture admired around the world and a great prosperity which depends on this culture, and which will dissipate as the mass immigration from the Third World continues.’"

2018-01-15 01:41:05 UTC  

"Arguing if atheists are going to be allowed in the ethnostate isn't productive if there aren't going to be any white people left."

2018-01-15 01:41:09 UTC  

- me.

2018-01-15 01:41:28 UTC  

[pg. 20] "Fate's irony surpass the most horrific scenarios we could have imagined as the guests of yesterday mutate into the new lords of the land, and who then take charge over society."

2018-01-15 01:42:11 UTC  

[pg. 22] "The willingness to redefine our terms thus implies a mental readiness to begin a counterattack against the political correct tyranny's aggressions and intimidations, these being nothing but a ruse by an enemy who knows full well that the more you pervert the language of a people, the more the spirit will be distorted and its resistance weakened.

2018-01-15 01:48:30 UTC  

[pg. 24] "We possess, however, the highest trump - the trump of trumps, which those who are attempting to erase all traces of their own blood do not possess and never can possess. We know where we are going because we know where we came from. We possess the memory of the history that is also the memory of the mythos of our ethnos, the consciousness of an unbroken line of ancestors from whom we have inherited the most valuable of all privileges: namely, the privilege to be like them."

2018-01-15 01:49:22 UTC  

[pg. 24] "The time is short! The challenge is huge, yet it is from our enemies' folly that wisdom is born, from this will that life is passed on, and from this despair that hope rises: for only at the very epicentre of danger does that which saves continue to grow - provided one knows, believes and wants it."