Message from @O.Staaf
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@Bravos you need to drop your christian mindset it's not what national socialism is about
I understand where you're coming from, and your goals are righteous but it's not national socialist to think in christian morality
and I'm not sure the man "owns" the womans sexuality
The husband will have monopoly over sex
I will read this
I don't think that's national socialist, but yeah.. thanks for discussing with me
I enjoyed this discussion
maybe today the culture is so degenerate that cheating on your partner might happen for anyone, but if the culture were healthier and it happens shouldn't the man be to blame since he couldn't keep his wife to himself, his character must have caused it
This rests on the question of a woman's autonomy
I don't really know if anyone is to blame, being unfaithful is wrong but anyway I don't think Christian values has anything to do with it
It makes sense people will search and play the market until they find someone who wants to purchase them
before christianity being faithful was still core to our culture as well as letting kids be kids
yeah, we shouldn't encourage sleeping around but it's not morally wrong neither if it's in order to find a life partner
but todays culture is degenerate, but that is due to the circumstances in finding a partner and how todays values are wrong
I think that men and women will naturally create a system that has to be mutually beneficial without the government rigging it in one gender's favor
Society at large will determine whether or not they will tolerate promiscuity
Once the government cannot bail out women that have been foolish
the jews created feminism and it's part of cultural marxism, so it's just a way to break down the natural order and stability of the society they want to reshape
the people don't always know what's best for them
or else direct democracy or something like that would be the way to go
we are open to the people making choices in some questions whether the state has to decide what's best for the people as a whole in other questions
eventually when the culture and genetics are healthy enough it will become an organic state
still hierarchical, not some socialist thing
In regards to what women will want long term and men will want long term for their family lives that will have to be satisfied voluntarily between the two of them.
Crying foul after using your sexuality and asking the government to bail you out will enforce behaviors that are toxic to society.
I agree that if the state prioritizes the race above anything else then it will probably result in policies that benefit the healthy and smart, while punishing the dumb and weak
I guess so, you can't and I don't see any benefit from micro managing people like that
Yeah, otherwise it would be central planning to the point of mismanaging your capital - in this case your human capital.
we're not anti individuals or individual differences
but maybe anti individualism if you see that as a philosophy or political stance or how you would classify it
I would probably say that individualism in a system that is run by destroyers will result in individuals benefiting themselves at the destruction of their people
Which is what we have today.
In a system that is run by protectors and sustainers, then people who wish to benefit themselves will act in a way that strengthens their people.
anyway you need to be able to sacrifice your own beliefs, wills and wants for the race or people as a whole to be able to cooperate effectively
you don't have to abandon them, but everyone can not pull the rope in their own direction
From everything I have observed, I know that the majority of people respond to incentives. They might feel strongly about something but are too lazy or cowardly to sacrifice for it. That's why the system has to incentivize people artificially.