Message from @Mercy

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2021-03-05 06:47:23 UTC  

I believe so

2021-03-05 06:53:06 UTC  

@dbel I forgot to ask, how are you doing? You asked me so it's only polite.

2021-03-05 06:53:59 UTC  

😊 I appreciate you asking! I’m doing pretty well, probably going to sleep soon unless you have stuff you’d like to chat about!

2021-03-05 06:54:48 UTC  

not really, have a good night.

2021-03-05 06:55:31 UTC  

You too, thanks!

2021-03-05 12:51:17 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801313357113458698/817378734549368882/image0-7.png

2021-03-05 14:34:06 UTC  

i believe in jesus but im not reposting that lol

2021-03-05 15:37:15 UTC  

I aint religious but i am pretty sure reposting the pic aint gonna get you into heaven either

2021-03-05 16:49:07 UTC  

It’s not

2021-03-05 17:51:09 UTC  

It's like a pyramid scheme for meme

2021-03-05 18:01:10 UTC  

Is that kid even old enough to go to high school?

2021-03-05 18:26:41 UTC  

lmaoo

2021-03-05 18:44:41 UTC  

Here’s a debate:

2021-03-05 18:45:00 UTC  

Should the Church allow LGBTQ members?

2021-03-05 18:45:06 UTC  

I say no

2021-03-05 18:49:07 UTC  

By grace you have been saved through Faith, not as a result of works, but a gift of God

2021-03-05 18:49:34 UTC  

Works are a result of salvation. Salvation is not a result of works.

2021-03-05 20:08:29 UTC  

Should the church tolerate people who believe that killing people is moral?

2021-03-05 20:09:08 UTC  

Should the church allow people who do not agree with fundamental beliefs in the church?

2021-03-05 20:10:16 UTC  

If your answer to any of those questions are yes, your wrong.

2021-03-05 20:11:44 UTC  

And I dare ANYONE to show me I am wrong with logic.

2021-03-05 20:15:26 UTC  

It’s not plus it’s spam plus showing that you love Jesus doesn’t require that photo 😂

2021-03-05 20:16:27 UTC  

Killing people isn’t always wrong though. While I would say it’s almost always a tragedy there are many cases where killing people is acceptable or needed

2021-03-05 20:17:37 UTC  

Even in Ecclesiastes 3 we see that there is a time even for war

2021-03-05 20:19:40 UTC  

For intent of my argument, they are not talking about self defence. They beleive that killing people is perfectly justified and okay.

2021-03-05 20:57:24 UTC  

So James 2:24 means nothing?

2021-03-05 21:10:49 UTC  

I would also like to mention that there have been “religious people” that weren’t all that good of people and used their faith to defend their beliefs and their acts

2021-03-05 21:12:29 UTC  

Those are people who use their "faith" purely as a crutch to justify themselves, ans morally browbeat others. At all other times you will never see them claiming to be so faithful, not that they acted out anything proper in the first place

2021-03-05 21:16:41 UTC  

That’s not always true

2021-03-05 21:17:18 UTC  

Your more so describing someone like Hitler, claimed to be Christian but secretly slandered them

2021-03-05 21:18:15 UTC  

There are also plenty of moral busybodies in the regular world...

2021-03-05 21:26:24 UTC  

What about the Spanish Inquisition? They seemed awfully religious. They thought what they were doing was for the betterment of the Church. Or literally any of the Popes that had sex or did things against the church. Or those in the early church who taught things contrary to what the church taught. All religious and faithful, but most people don’t considered them as good people

2021-03-05 21:51:15 UTC  

James 2:24 is talking about works being evidence of saving faith.

2021-03-05 21:57:38 UTC  

How so? They talk about faith and acts as two different things. “You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone.” That doesn’t seem to explain acts working on faith.

2021-03-05 22:04:00 UTC  

But your interpretation of James 2:24 would seem to contradict passages such as Ephesians 2:8-9.

2021-03-05 22:04:24 UTC  

And that would be?

2021-03-05 22:05:39 UTC  

Ephesians 2:8-10 2:8 For by grace you are saved through faith, and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God; 2:9 it is not from works, so that no one can boast. 2:10 For we are his workmanship, having been created in Christ Jesus for good works that God prepared beforehand so we may do them.

2021-03-05 22:16:18 UTC  

Well if we’re going to interpret Bible passages, the “it is not from works” could mean the grace God have does not come from works. And the “so that no come an boast” could be taking about the Pharisees. They were the ones who were fasting but showing their pain (which Jesus stated that you should not do). Plus, the Bible never states that acts are not important nor helpful. It’s states that you are given grace through your faith. And if they work against one another, why do they exist together. Why be apart of the Bible if one is lie and one is truth? Does this suggest the Bible is nonsense or possibly not fully the word of God?

2021-03-05 22:28:28 UTC  

You mean the Catholic spanish church, hunting down any of the other churches they deemed unworthy?

2021-03-05 22:28:46 UTC  

The question is how are we saved faith or works, not whether or not you should do good works. verse 10 of Ephesians 2 says we are Gods workmanship and created for good works.