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unless "the system is going to collapse so we need a new one" is somehow "muh poor people"
all political arguments have some degree of moralisation because it depends on what you value and how you want to elevate it
marxism as a doctrine is about the working class (viewed as poor people) revolting against the artificial aristocracy (bourgeois) made by liberalism
what
ofc but you can try and minimise this, eg compare a libertarian/ancom to someone like giuli
no
giuli is just as moral as they are
eventually DoTP will come
which is rule of the poor people abused by the rich
marxism is dead
the idea that nationalists have dis-entrenched morality from their worldview is so retarded
whats giuli
german food
from what I can tell at least, he first has an understanding of how the world works and then tries to impose his will in it
whereas ancaps/ancoms just have moralisations out of completely nowhere
'materialism for the world and idealism for the people' is something he mentioned
exactly
that the morality and ideology surrounding a political structure is just propaganda for the people to justify the moves within the material struggle
the world doesnt work in a linear fashion. globalist liberalism could probably *work* in the sense that it could sustain itself it would just be an undesirable existence
im back
even as a marxists, you don't tell most people "ackshually read capital economic determinism blah blah"
(black)
reading is for ppl who can't figure shit out on their own
leftists are good at unpropaganda
in no way is this counter to any moral assertion
yes it is
they worked themselves into the decolonization pipeline, or were helped there by spooks, and now are distant retards completely detached from american needs
nope
morality is just tools people use to get what they want in the world
of course its a tool
the actual reality of whats going on is not analysed by looking at morals
lmfao what
that is the dumbest shit ive ever heard
the US doesn't invade places because muh morals
^
who said it did
they do because dumb idealist foreign policy
you are implying it
im not implying that at all lol
"democracy and freedom" is just the bullshit they sell people, which, unfortunately, they eat up and then wonder why our wars never bring those things
they do it because resources and money wtf lol