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damn woland I'm being OWNED right now

I can't take it

what?

damn you really are mad

woland, how tall are you?

you have 5'11 energy

oh do you?

I think you have more "I'm overly anrgy about debating teenagers on discord" energy

I am lanklet then

I'm not in a "leftist echo chamber"

you should see my twitter feed

it's more right than left because I find 99% of LWers insufferable

I'm still a Marxist

and idk what you think but sure nationalism/racism can be a useful tool

it's just not the only thing and class issues certainly aren't irrelevant

well so are race issues in most countries

this is a very subjective argument, and I could say the same that most people are pissed off at the rich

and obv you can agitate either

most people wouldn't based on race either though

well duh

yes

I know that the modern left is a shithole

this is not news to me

they are both stupid and annoying

99% of the left is just moralisations

most "marxists" just use it as a way to say "muh poor people"

economic analysis

of why capitalism is either going to fail, or become a UBI dystopia

not at all

unless "the system is going to collapse so we need a new one" is somehow "muh poor people"

ofc but you can try and minimise this, eg compare a libertarian/ancom to someone like giuli

from what I can tell at least, he first has an understanding of how the world works and then tries to impose his will in it

whereas ancaps/ancoms just have moralisations out of completely nowhere

exactly

even as a marxists, you don't tell most people "ackshually read capital economic determinism blah blah"

yes it is

morality is just tools people use to get what they want in the world

the actual reality of whats going on is not analysed by looking at morals

the US doesn't invade places because muh morals

you are implying it

they do it because resources and money wtf lol

ofc ideas aren't completely irrelevant, but material reasons are 99% of the time more important

if it was about morals then why does AUS trade so much with china lmao

no

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