no thats the long-term goal

because the people make it so

but they do it because they have a system built into their foreign policy which is just liberal idealism

"the people" do things based on a simple moral system

ideals have real world consequences but they often warp to the material struggle as well

yeah

whos denying this

ofc ideas aren't completely irrelevant, but material reasons are 99% of the time more important

there are probably some dumbasses that unironically think iraq was about democracy but with enough mental gymnastics you can make it appear so because you want that oil loot grab mindset

because the actions of the base are an aggregatw of all the individuals that dont have an in depth understanding of politics and do shit based on a moral system

oh my fucking god

it was about both

not in equal proportions i'd say

there's a reason we work with saudi arabia of course

argue this in vc

there was also the idea that "iraq had WMDs"

ill be one sec

im black

i dont think theres an argument

lol yeah

Lol

if it was about morals then why does AUS trade so much with china lmao

i dont think theres an argument AAA is just being dumb @grete

There's also the wilsonian idea of Collective security for much of these interventions

"No one can have weapons but us"

imperial elite 🥂

Imperialism is only good when I say it is (x2)

@AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA get in

Hop in nig

it doesn't even have to be weapons like WMDs, it can just be any sort of power to be semi-independent

Imperialism is good when a master race does it and not in any other case

no

gotta become the master race

(Only whites are a master race)

you have to EARN it

Arabs

why @AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

sigh

its the reason the CIA has been trying to snatch up small countries since the fall of the USSR

Iraq got fucked because they invaded Kuwait and Afghanistan because of the Taliban government and Al-Qaeda not because of "muh freedom" or "muh resources"

Arabs are fine as long as they stay in their territory (MENA)