Message from @grete

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2021-01-16 23:53:24 UTC  

ofc ideas aren't completely irrelevant, but material reasons are 99% of the time more important

2021-01-16 23:53:28 UTC  

there are probably some dumbasses that unironically think iraq was about democracy but with enough mental gymnastics you can make it appear so because you want that oil loot grab mindset

2021-01-16 23:53:30 UTC  

because the actions of the base are an aggregatw of all the individuals that dont have an in depth understanding of politics and do shit based on a moral system

2021-01-16 23:53:36 UTC  

oh my fucking god

2021-01-16 23:53:48 UTC  

it was about both

2021-01-16 23:53:59 UTC  

not in equal proportions i'd say

2021-01-16 23:54:04 UTC  

there's a reason we work with saudi arabia of course

2021-01-16 23:54:21 UTC  

argue this in vc

2021-01-16 23:54:27 UTC  

there was also the idea that "iraq had WMDs"

2021-01-16 23:54:29 UTC  

ill be one sec

2021-01-16 23:54:30 UTC  

im black

2021-01-16 23:54:32 UTC  

i dont think theres an argument

2021-01-16 23:54:34 UTC  

lol yeah

2021-01-16 23:54:39 UTC  

Lol

2021-01-16 23:54:39 UTC  

if it was about morals then why does AUS trade so much with china lmao

2021-01-16 23:54:51 UTC  

i dont think theres an argument AAA is just being dumb @grete

2021-01-16 23:54:56 UTC  

There's also the wilsonian idea of Collective security for much of these interventions

2021-01-16 23:55:04 UTC  

"No one can have weapons but us"

2021-01-16 23:55:30 UTC  

imperial elite 🥂

2021-01-16 23:56:19 UTC  

Imperialism is only good when I say it is (x2)

2021-01-16 23:56:39 UTC  
2021-01-16 23:57:12 UTC  

Hop in nig

2021-01-16 23:57:17 UTC  

it doesn't even have to be weapons like WMDs, it can just be any sort of power to be semi-independent

2021-01-16 23:57:19 UTC  

Imperialism is good when a master race does it and not in any other case

2021-01-16 23:57:21 UTC  

no

2021-01-16 23:57:31 UTC  

gotta become the master race

2021-01-16 23:57:31 UTC  

(Only whites are a master race)

2021-01-16 23:57:38 UTC  

you have to EARN it

2021-01-16 23:57:41 UTC  

Arabs

2021-01-16 23:57:47 UTC  
2021-01-16 23:57:52 UTC  

sigh

2021-01-16 23:57:52 UTC  

its the reason the CIA has been trying to snatch up small countries since the fall of the USSR

2021-01-16 23:57:54 UTC  

Iraq got fucked because they invaded Kuwait and Afghanistan because of the Taliban government and Al-Qaeda not because of "muh freedom" or "muh resources"

2021-01-16 23:58:20 UTC  

Arabs are fine as long as they stay in their territory (MENA)

2021-01-16 23:58:20 UTC  

@HistoricalGamer post the image in your pfp

2021-01-16 23:58:30 UTC  

Saddam would still be around if he didn't invade Kuwait loool

2021-01-16 23:58:37 UTC  

No one is afraid of Belarus or the Venezuela getting WMDs

2021-01-16 23:58:46 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/793519133177675800/800152099622879232/sample_de9457fa754f4a4bb0846e9ee7f8507a.jpg

2021-01-16 23:58:49 UTC  

Afghanistan was opium and geopolitics

2021-01-16 23:58:55 UTC  

saddam wasn't deposed after desert storm

2021-01-16 23:59:05 UTC  

For instance I would never support mongols