the reference to peter as rock in John does not proceed a confession

so that polemic is shit

@Ben Yeah but you have to be the Roy Cohn kind of jew

epic

@leopirate Does man have the right to sin?

@Scooter2000 God gave man the gift of freewill. Man condemns himself with sin.

I'm working on a video series that showcases the fruits of sin:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqDk-2bKWQ3tGvy4MqZ1EYn5IRlsmqDY9

@leopirate Does man have the right to sin?

No, man does not have the moral or legal entitlement to transgress God's law.

@leopirate Then man does not have any right whatsoever to freedom of his conscience

The capability to sin is ever present, meaning freedom of conscience does exist.

Being able to do something does not mean you have a right to it. Man has no right to Blasphemy for example.

But it's not under God's law, it's under Satan's law

"The law of sin" as the Apostle Paul explains

So we should permit the law of Satan?

And give deference to it?

No. We should expose the error and death caused by Satan's law, and not put people to torture chambers for inquiring about it.

Did anyone propose torture chambers?

The Catholic Church did in its enforcement of "God's law"

God didn't smite Satan when he fell from heaven. Instead, God let the angels observe what he has done to mankind through the ages.

Why would you advocate for a freedom you know immoral?

Conscience is thought. It has not yet become action. I believe in criticizing ideas, not burning them.

You believe in the tolerance of error

By your definition so does God, with his handling of Satan in the great controversy between him and Christ.

Should we have any laws based on morality?

God does not tolerate error. He exposes it so it is not repeated, showcasing all of the death that comes from it.

So should we have any laws based on morality?

I mean do we have any duty to govern even our own behaviour?

As said by the Apostle:

"For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: **for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men**."
Paul the Apostle, 1 Corinthians 4:9

So

Yes or no?

Yes we do have the duty, however we cannot do it in fully in our sinful state. We must let God's Son do it for us.

Which means what

By letting Christ's divine character manifest in your actions, speech, personality, etc. you will reflect the character of God -- who has never sinned.

Which means what

I'm not sure what you're asking.

I'm asking you what that means practically

I get that it's a conveniently flattering position to hold rhetorically