Message from @leopirate

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2018-07-04 02:42:38 UTC  

the reference to peter as rock in John does not proceed a confession

2018-07-04 02:42:41 UTC  

so that polemic is shit

2018-07-04 07:24:31 UTC  

@Ben Yeah but you have to be the Roy Cohn kind of jew

epic

2018-07-07 02:13:03 UTC  

@leopirate Does man have the right to sin?

2018-07-07 02:15:04 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/402358813795287041/464977622418587658/TLM_v_NO.png

2018-07-07 02:16:13 UTC  

@Scooter2000 God gave man the gift of freewill. Man condemns himself with sin.

2018-07-07 02:16:35 UTC  

I'm working on a video series that showcases the fruits of sin:

2018-07-07 02:18:29 UTC  

@leopirate Does man have the right to sin?

2018-07-07 02:21:59 UTC  

No, man does not have the moral or legal entitlement to transgress God's law.

2018-07-07 02:23:48 UTC  

@leopirate Then man does not have any right whatsoever to freedom of his conscience

2018-07-07 02:24:55 UTC  

The capability to sin is ever present, meaning freedom of conscience does exist.

2018-07-07 02:25:19 UTC  

Being able to do something does not mean you have a right to it. Man has no right to Blasphemy for example.

2018-07-07 02:25:30 UTC  

But it's not under God's law, it's under Satan's law

2018-07-07 02:25:45 UTC  

"The law of sin" as the Apostle Paul explains

2018-07-07 02:26:08 UTC  

So we should permit the law of Satan?

2018-07-07 02:26:14 UTC  

And give deference to it?

2018-07-07 02:27:02 UTC  

No. We should expose the error and death caused by Satan's law, and not put people to torture chambers for inquiring about it.

2018-07-07 02:27:31 UTC  

Did anyone propose torture chambers?

2018-07-07 02:27:46 UTC  

The Catholic Church did in its enforcement of "God's law"

2018-07-07 02:27:57 UTC  

God didn't smite Satan when he fell from heaven. Instead, God let the angels observe what he has done to mankind through the ages.

2018-07-07 02:28:19 UTC  

Why would you advocate for a freedom you know immoral?

2018-07-07 02:28:55 UTC  

Conscience is thought. It has not yet become action. I believe in criticizing ideas, not burning them.

2018-07-07 02:29:10 UTC  

You believe in the tolerance of error

2018-07-07 02:29:14 UTC  

By your definition so does God, with his handling of Satan in the great controversy between him and Christ.

2018-07-07 02:29:57 UTC  

Should we have any laws based on morality?

2018-07-07 02:31:22 UTC  

God does not tolerate error. He exposes it so it is not repeated, showcasing all of the death that comes from it.

2018-07-07 02:31:48 UTC  

So should we have any laws based on morality?

2018-07-07 02:32:00 UTC  

I mean do we have any duty to govern even our own behaviour?

2018-07-07 02:32:13 UTC  

As said by the Apostle:

2018-07-07 02:32:32 UTC  

"For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: **for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men**."
Paul the Apostle, 1 Corinthians 4:9

2018-07-07 02:32:46 UTC  

So

2018-07-07 02:32:49 UTC  

Yes or no?

2018-07-07 02:33:13 UTC  

Yes we do have the duty, however we cannot do it in fully in our sinful state. We must let God's Son do it for us.

2018-07-07 02:33:25 UTC  

Which means what

2018-07-07 02:33:58 UTC  

By letting Christ's divine character manifest in your actions, speech, personality, etc. you will reflect the character of God -- who has never sinned.

2018-07-07 02:34:08 UTC  

Which means what

2018-07-07 02:34:41 UTC  

I'm not sure what you're asking.

2018-07-07 02:34:49 UTC  

I'm asking you what that means practically

2018-07-07 02:35:10 UTC  

I get that it's a conveniently flattering position to hold rhetorically