Message from @Scooter2000
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The Catholic Church did in its enforcement of "God's law"
God didn't smite Satan when he fell from heaven. Instead, God let the angels observe what he has done to mankind through the ages.
Why would you advocate for a freedom you know immoral?
Conscience is thought. It has not yet become action. I believe in criticizing ideas, not burning them.
You believe in the tolerance of error
By your definition so does God, with his handling of Satan in the great controversy between him and Christ.
Should we have any laws based on morality?
God does not tolerate error. He exposes it so it is not repeated, showcasing all of the death that comes from it.
So should we have any laws based on morality?
I mean do we have any duty to govern even our own behaviour?
As said by the Apostle:
"For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: **for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men**."
Paul the Apostle, 1 Corinthians 4:9
So
Yes or no?
Yes we do have the duty, however we cannot do it in fully in our sinful state. We must let God's Son do it for us.
Which means what
By letting Christ's divine character manifest in your actions, speech, personality, etc. you will reflect the character of God -- who has never sinned.
Which means what
I'm not sure what you're asking.
I'm asking you what that means practically
If you're not Christian, it seems like rhetoric. But if you do believe in the Gospel, you understand Jesus was the Passover Lamb for the Jew and Gentile. Meaning, by believing in the merits of a crucified and risen savior, you can overcome sin through Christ. Not your own works.
Yeah well again that's convenient rhetoric
Because that doesn't actually tell me anything
Relevant to the question
"Christians" are those who follow Christ -- the anointed one. Practically, your life should resemble the life of the Son of God.
What
Does
That
Entail
Cause I could give you an extremely clear answer
You don't seem capable of that
Living in accordance with the Ten Commandments.
Ok good.
I apologize if I'm not being clear. I assumed you knew the character of Christ already. And how he never sinned, and fulfilled the law.
If you don't know these things, then yes what I said earlier may have seemed like rhetoric. It's not.
I do know these things
This is how people who don't have answers speak - sanctimoniously
If there is a moral law which we know and man has no right to error then why would we enthrone as good, right and desirable policies which oppose that moral law?
Jesus kept the ten commandments. Those who follow Christ do as well.
"Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus."
Revelation 14:12
For the same reason God didn't smite Satan.
He rebuked Satan
he was cast from heaven
removed from the life of grace