Message from @Say
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So, does every disease have a 100% kill rate?
No..?
So, it's possible for people to survive an infection without being vaccinated?
I mean....people survived infections before vaccinations, right?
Yes, of course. But they have a **significantly** better chance of survival with a vaccination
What does significantly mean to someone who survived it? I would say that, for that individual, significant means nothing.
What..?
You need antibodies to fight these diseases. When you have these antibodies your body can easily fight off the disease
If someone survived an infection without being vaccinated, he didn't "significantly better chance of survival". ….he DID survive.
That’s nonsense
How so?
That person DIDN'T survive? You agreed that it's possible. So, I guess it's not nonsense.
If you get two groups of 1,000 people. One group has been vaccinated, the other has not. And you expose all of them to the flu virus, the group that has been vaccinated will survive much more than those not vaccinated
Strawman. That is not what we discussed.
How is it a strawman
We’re discussing survival rates
Those who are vaccinated have a much greater chance of survival than those who havent
Only you're talking 'rates". That is your attempt to divert from the subject at hand.
What...?
Why wouldn’t we talk about rates
It’s because of vaccines
Because that's your strawman. Here, let's try this again.....do diseases kill 100% of the people who aren't vaccinated?
No. We have immune systems to help us
Vaccines strengthen our immune system
I didn't ask if vaccines strengthen our immune systems. Please stop embellishing your answers with strawman positions.
So these are the facts from you so far,.
People can be harmed from vaccines, from minor to major harm including death.
People can survive not vaccinated.
You think it's OK to harm people to get what you want.
You are anti-immigration.
Are these statements accurate?
Idk why you’re trying to simplify it
You stand a better chance of survival with a vaccination than without one
I don't know why you're trying to complicate it. Are these statements of yours accurate?
"You stand a better chance of survival with a vaccination than without one"
Please dont create strawman positions in an attempt to solidify your argument.
*crickets*
No response? I'm out.
Does herd immunity mean nothing to you @hootersforshooters
Also you are literally throwing aside facts that @say has put to you
I have no idea. What does herd immunity mean to you?
I'm not throwing aside anything. I'm keeping him to the subject at hand