Message from @hootersforshooters
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But with a gun with a really large cartridge?
Sort of like Russian roulette except there’s 100,000,000 slots and only one of those is filled with a nerf bullet
Nerf bullet? Can a nerf bullet kill? Because you DID say that vaccines can kill, right?
Sure, but we don’t usually give vaccines to those people
How do you know?
Because I’m a doctor
You don’t give vaccines to people with bad immune systems
Do doctors usually say something then immediately modify their answers when prodded?
It’s called nuance
Sounds like moving the goals posts to me,.
Ik you don’t like that i wont answer your questions with a yes or no, but reality is usually shades of gray, not black and white
Aren't people with bad immune systems precisely the people who need to be protected with vaccines?
Arent people with strong immune systems capable of fighting off diseases? Or, does every disease have a 100% kill rate?
Vaccines are usually made up of a weakened or dead form of the virus. Our body then creates antibodies to fight off the disease. Even people with strong immune systems are worse off than people with antibodies for a disease
People with a bad immune system have a greater chance of not forming antibodies to the weakened form of the disease
So, does every disease have a 100% kill rate?
No..?
So, it's possible for people to survive an infection without being vaccinated?
I mean....people survived infections before vaccinations, right?
Yes, of course. But they have a **significantly** better chance of survival with a vaccination
What does significantly mean to someone who survived it? I would say that, for that individual, significant means nothing.
What..?
You need antibodies to fight these diseases. When you have these antibodies your body can easily fight off the disease
If someone survived an infection without being vaccinated, he didn't "significantly better chance of survival". ….he DID survive.
That’s nonsense
How so?
That person DIDN'T survive? You agreed that it's possible. So, I guess it's not nonsense.
If you get two groups of 1,000 people. One group has been vaccinated, the other has not. And you expose all of them to the flu virus, the group that has been vaccinated will survive much more than those not vaccinated
Strawman. That is not what we discussed.
How is it a strawman
We’re discussing survival rates
Those who are vaccinated have a much greater chance of survival than those who havent
Only you're talking 'rates". That is your attempt to divert from the subject at hand.
What...?
Why wouldn’t we talk about rates
There’s a reason why we don’t have 40,000 deaths per 100,000 people due to influenza
It’s because of vaccines
Because that's your strawman. Here, let's try this again.....do diseases kill 100% of the people who aren't vaccinated?
No. We have immune systems to help us
Vaccines strengthen our immune system
I didn't ask if vaccines strengthen our immune systems. Please stop embellishing your answers with strawman positions.