Message from @hootersforshooters

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2019-11-10 23:00:31 UTC  

But with a gun with a really large cartridge?

2019-11-10 23:00:43 UTC  

Sort of like Russian roulette except there’s 100,000,000 slots and only one of those is filled with a nerf bullet

2019-11-10 23:01:26 UTC  

Nerf bullet? Can a nerf bullet kill? Because you DID say that vaccines can kill, right?

2019-11-10 23:01:54 UTC  

Sure, but we don’t usually give vaccines to those people

2019-11-10 23:02:03 UTC  

How do you know?

2019-11-10 23:02:09 UTC  

Because I’m a doctor

2019-11-10 23:02:25 UTC  

You don’t give vaccines to people with bad immune systems

2019-11-10 23:02:41 UTC  

Do doctors usually say something then immediately modify their answers when prodded?

2019-11-10 23:02:55 UTC  

It’s called nuance

2019-11-10 23:03:17 UTC  

Sounds like moving the goals posts to me,.

2019-11-10 23:03:36 UTC  

Ik you don’t like that i wont answer your questions with a yes or no, but reality is usually shades of gray, not black and white

2019-11-10 23:03:54 UTC  

Aren't people with bad immune systems precisely the people who need to be protected with vaccines?

2019-11-10 23:04:56 UTC  

Arent people with strong immune systems capable of fighting off diseases? Or, does every disease have a 100% kill rate?

2019-11-10 23:06:17 UTC  

Vaccines are usually made up of a weakened or dead form of the virus. Our body then creates antibodies to fight off the disease. Even people with strong immune systems are worse off than people with antibodies for a disease

2019-11-10 23:06:56 UTC  

People with a bad immune system have a greater chance of not forming antibodies to the weakened form of the disease

2019-11-10 23:07:33 UTC  

So, does every disease have a 100% kill rate?

2019-11-10 23:07:46 UTC  

No..?

2019-11-10 23:08:19 UTC  

So, it's possible for people to survive an infection without being vaccinated?

2019-11-10 23:08:50 UTC  

I mean....people survived infections before vaccinations, right?

2019-11-10 23:08:55 UTC  

Yes, of course. But they have a **significantly** better chance of survival with a vaccination

2019-11-10 23:09:37 UTC  

What does significantly mean to someone who survived it? I would say that, for that individual, significant means nothing.

2019-11-10 23:09:58 UTC  

What..?

2019-11-10 23:10:55 UTC  

You need antibodies to fight these diseases. When you have these antibodies your body can easily fight off the disease

2019-11-10 23:11:03 UTC  

If someone survived an infection without being vaccinated, he didn't "significantly better chance of survival". ….he DID survive.

2019-11-10 23:11:48 UTC  

That’s nonsense

2019-11-10 23:11:54 UTC  

How so?

2019-11-10 23:12:18 UTC  

That person DIDN'T survive? You agreed that it's possible. So, I guess it's not nonsense.

2019-11-10 23:12:52 UTC  

If you get two groups of 1,000 people. One group has been vaccinated, the other has not. And you expose all of them to the flu virus, the group that has been vaccinated will survive much more than those not vaccinated

2019-11-10 23:13:17 UTC  

Strawman. That is not what we discussed.

2019-11-10 23:13:38 UTC  

How is it a strawman

2019-11-10 23:13:44 UTC  

We’re discussing survival rates

2019-11-10 23:13:59 UTC  

Those who are vaccinated have a much greater chance of survival than those who havent

2019-11-10 23:14:32 UTC  

Only you're talking 'rates". That is your attempt to divert from the subject at hand.

2019-11-10 23:14:43 UTC  

What...?

2019-11-10 23:14:50 UTC  

Why wouldn’t we talk about rates

2019-11-10 23:15:19 UTC  

There’s a reason why we don’t have 40,000 deaths per 100,000 people due to influenza

2019-11-10 23:15:56 UTC  

It’s because of vaccines

2019-11-10 23:17:10 UTC  

Because that's your strawman. Here, let's try this again.....do diseases kill 100% of the people who aren't vaccinated?

2019-11-10 23:17:57 UTC  

No. We have immune systems to help us

2019-11-10 23:18:11 UTC  

Vaccines strengthen our immune system

2019-11-10 23:18:51 UTC  

I didn't ask if vaccines strengthen our immune systems. Please stop embellishing your answers with strawman positions.